While several of us went off on the Queets tangent, I think my point there applies to all of our WA rivers ... the state still says they are healthy in those areas where C&K is allowed, but then the WDFW turns around and closes yet another river every year due to poor returns that they blame on all other factors other than overharvest ... they seem to still have the 'faith' that many people share in thinking that fish will just magically return every year. As to ONP, I'm getting word that it is very important to bypass the biologist and make sure you get your info to the park superintendant ... makes sense to me ... if the bio is anything like the state bios ... we're in deep trouble!!!