So in other words "you went from a spawning adult to a newbe smolt" with a click of the mouse. Same thing happened to me last year. Blame it on Y2K. I don't know the river as well as some but the canyon has produced some nice nates for me (a couple over 20 inches). Keep in touch Hillbilly. Let me know if you change your log on again. Julies family is still in Marysville so I do get back every once in awhile. Take care & congrat's on the new baby. Ric