OK mystery solved. First dumb me as I had not thought of braided slipping as all my reels with braid happen to be drilled or the larger have pegs so I anchor the line. That bit solved but what was so confusing is two washers were assembled at the factory upside down. The one with the little nobs to give the click ( no big deal ) and the concave washer for pressure which is a problem. Re-spooled and put mono down and Eric got the parts put in correctly and good to go.

Stupid me on one but Shimano needs to do some quality control on their products a little better.