Hohwaiian, please reread my post very carefully. I believe you misunderstood some of my comments. Those answers are there. Also, the environmentalist I was talking about are in government agencys themselves. They are not the active extremists. Sportmens are environmentalist also to some degree or another, you have to be. Our issue are complex and we have unique problems and removing the 4 lower Snake Rvier dams won't really solve them. Why didn't 696 pass? Media misinformation, people really didn't understand what they were voting for. Why has it been so hard to addresss the seal, terns, and other predator issues? Be careful, study alll the facts. Think. Scientific data, reams of it, a good place to start would be with the book I mentioned, available at most book stores. It is not my intention to creat an unfriendly attitude but to present ideas about controversial issues.