im with pond. I used to wear neo's until I got my simm's breathables. I think the trick is definately layering. Before I layered properly I got cold. I wear a good thick pair of fleece pants, and two pairs of wool socks. The key is wool not cotton or polyester mix. If wool scratches you to much, get a pair of polypro sock liners. Im pretty much a bankie, but these wadres can be used in the summer and winter. This summer I wont be dying of heat exhaustion