Boy oh boy. I am moderately dissapointed. You guys are easier than I thought you'd be! And for the record, I never saw a single pair of stained shorts in the woods. Oh by the way..Hey KOB..I have heard of guys like you. Forks on the 10th and 11th, the Kalama the following weekend. My guess...McNeil Island by the end of the month. Hey Big Jim...Two beautiful, freshly cured skeins sais you can squash KOB like the bug that he is!........My love to all.....DB