Cohoangler- You asked for a smarter post than yours. Well, your post has been one of the most intelligent I've read on here; as has been this thread so far. It is unfortunate that so many things, especially Mother Nature's factor's (such as poor ocean survival and floods, etc.), are out of our control to help with. The things we should be able to control, but are so difficult to manage, are the more frustrating factors by man. The dams, gill nets, habitat denegration are all politically and money controled. Real frustrating! We should band togther as has been suggested on this site to fight against these things. The most significant immediate thing we as sportfishermen can do is to stop killing nates at the very least. And immediately report illegal fishing abuses using our cell phones. We have to start those immediately, and work on the more difficult challenges diligently over time. ..shtick