Thanks for taking the time to post the links. The day the commercial, sports and tribal sectors actually get together and accomplish something will be a sight to behold. I doubt chambers creek hatchery steelhead will be the catalyst. I also disagree with attacking the enviros as most of the problem with andromonous fish is destruction of habitat but I don't have the time or inclination to get into that beaten dead horse here. Frankly, I'm surprised at all the huffing and puffing about Chambers Creek hatchery steelhead here after reading all the badmouthing they get over the years. "Hatchery turds" that cost way more than they are worth to produce with dismal returns that support tribal netting in the rivers are the complaints I hear. Personally they are on my to do list right below humpies and there are plenty of them around here.