Lot of truth to what you say Reel. I'll add that those ugly upper prices are even more rediculous when you consider the declining salmon and steelhead runs and the Feds and states taking away more of our fishing opportunity all of the time. Snag, those prices you quote must be over in Sing., NOT here. And your Sustain dropped from a described $230 to $135 ? In the not too distant future some guys may have some real nice $450 wallhangings if they aren't allowed to use their GL 3's anymore. ..shtick