One of the places I hunt allows me to take only does. No problem. It is a 3 pt or better and I have had a wall-hanger 3 and 4 10-20 yds broadside and two smaller 3's at 10-15. But, if I had permission to take a buck the one I would have shot had the right antler coming across the nose like a facemask. "Everybody" has a 4x4 but how many would have one like that?