We have fft up what we haven't sh!t on and unfortunately with the population exploding it's never going to be the same as it was. Toss in the greed factor and that puts the nail in the coffin. I'm seriously thinking of giving up salmon and steelhead fishing after 55 years of it. I'll use my boat to fly fish the Yakima and other streams for trout and the occasional wild steelhead over there. There is still potential for solitude and even when it's perceived as crowded compared to over here it's paradise. At some point one has to say they've had enough.