We've actually discussed the Boeing strike previously here and that thread is in the archives. But-

I think Boeing considered relocating in an effort to lower their labor costs and at the same time played the State of Washington perfectly. Why wouldn't they play out a strategy to win on two fronts at the same time? That is just being smart. I also see that assertion as a separate topic- what is fair for big business in Washington has nothing at all to do with a union strike or a competitive wage. I believe that is the center of the issue where we fundamentally disagree though; there is a presumption of union workers of entitlement, that they somehow deserve more than what is competitive in the market whether company is successful or not or that there is any correlation between profits and wages. Which, if there was such a correlation, it would make sense in a down economy, or less profitable year, that wages would then be reduced because THAT would be fair although inconvenient. Union workers live in some delusional reality where they believe they are special, exempt of rising costs and beyond any economic pressure at all. Unfortunately that isn't how the world works.

That said, I don't think Boeing or any big business for that matter, should have any tax credit but apparently the Governor and Legislature doesn't agree with us.

In my trade, when an employee intentionally compromises performance, restricts sales or quality they deserve to be dismissed, plain and simple, particularly in a market where there is an over abundance of available labor. Raises are earned, not asked for or delivered with ultimatums.

What I find most offensive is the union's willingness in this case to jeapordize other businesses and families with the slow down. God forbid I was on the downhill side of that; I can't imagine what it would be like, for example, to have a shipment of perishables wasted when my business or pay check depended on delivery. That is a LONG list of people affected by this situation and that is shameful IMO. If you are truly part of a "collective" then, logically, you are just as responsible for the actions of the entire unit and I think you have to shoulder the responsibility for the actions of your union. Suggesting it isn't YOUR fault is a cop out.

You are correct in that I was trolling a little. I wanted to hear your side of the story and am willing to hear more. I'd love to be convinced or sold on all of the reasons why I am wrong or don't understand the bigger picture. How the union is somehow helping anyone but themselves, actually saving Washington money, contributing more or valiantly fighting evil on some other undisclosed front. I could go on and on but it would probably just get more facetious.

For disclosures sake, one of my best friends is a union spokesman for a giant manufacturer located on the Tacoma tide-flats (whatever the position is called- I can't remember other than I have sat across the table in negotiations with them and reps many times) and we vehemently disagree and have had many heated discussions in the driftboat on these very topics. We are both passionate and hot-headed and those dialogues have made some unproductive days of fishing more interesting. You are probably a great guy, I appreciate the exchange and respect (kinda) your position. I respect you took the time to post and took the time myself because, in spite of me being a jerk, you kept your cool and that alone deserves a response. I get you want to do the best for your family, as we all try to- none of this (from me) is personal.

I know I am not alone when I say I hope you resolve this quickly.