dfitter - Many of the good tackle shops carry plain white powdered sodium sulfite in pastic containers. I get it at Fishermen's Marine Supply in Oregon City. This is the "star" ingredient in most commercial egg cures. It is a preservative that Kings like (they naturally like salt tastes). Not only in eggs but also scent formulas. If you really want to get tricky with a 3rd formula, in place of the sodium sulfite use about 1/3 that amount of the stronger sodium nitrate. Get the best you can find at a meat processing plant or photo developing supply store (they use it as a drying agent). Kings are moody and finicky. They may like one cure or scent one day and some others the next day. Have flexability with your eggs and scents by having some with sodium nitrate in it; because when they are in that mood, which is fairly often, it can really be deadly if used sparingly! Also, try a little Cravex Plus on your bait or lure (some tropical fish stores have it). It was developed by fish biologists to stimulate the appetite of large and small aquarium fish, so they will start eating again after going thru transfer shock. It can help the King bite in slower water areas, such as holed up tidewater Kings. - dcrzfitter, I read where you claim that you are "not a big mouth" when it comes to sharing info. You have no problem asking Q's though. I have a gig teaching people to fish. I like to help underdogs and I don't mind others catching fish anymore. The things I won't reveal are where the good secret places are, where I can catch fish in relative solitude.- RT

[This message has been edited by Reel Truth (edited 07-14-2000).]