Milt,

I'm not sure what the patronizing BS is that you're referring to, but I'd like to see recovery related discussions that refer to science and data. I'm concerned that some of the recovery goals may be fueled more by emotion than ecosystem productivity.

Keta,

Are you referring to the huge increase in pink salmon abundance in PS? I don't know if it's causal, but pink salmon fry hit the estuary before chum and chinook fry do, and I think they forage on many of the same food sources. The increase in pinks does correlate with the recent decline in natural production of chum and chinook, so pinks could be part of the cause.

Cncfish,

I think we know that hatcheries work. Hatcheries work to create abundant supplies of hatchery fish. Hatcheries can only improve naturally reproducing populations if they are managed for that purpose, and the overwhelming majority are not. And even when they are managed to improve wild populations, they can only do so if natural habitat is currently under-utilized.

Sg