Gonefishin'... You've got one good point, let them get caught on their own, and they WONT do it again... As far as some of the rest of the stuff you say?! Come on over.. we can go poaching steelhead on the lyre sometime... We can take the halibut rod with 100 lb test, with a BIG halibut reel, we can get up there, and I'll see how you feel, when I beat the hell out of you with the butt end of it, and see how you like the water, as I'm snagging you, and yarding you back up the whitewater... Or maybe I'll just turn my 150 lb Boxer loose on you while you are gasping for air...