Chumkiller, all your questions are justified. I will e-mail you a responce as I feel we have digressed from the orginial topic of this thread. I have a responce from John Sayre concerning this whole matter however it is too lengthy for this formum. My club is envolved cuz Haskell Slough is in our backyard and we do a lot of the field work, willow plantings, sandbagging, smolt trapping etc.

Beezer