Let me see....I caught ZERO doggies while mooching for silvers this year so far(knock on wood). Hmmmm not always a bad deal unless I wanted to catch the arfers. Hell you can tie wire leaders to combat the arfers if you can't out smart them. Nothing works better for kings/silvers because of the control it gives you over your gear...Live to Mooch, Mooch to live
Tight Lines

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Marty
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