Truely I don't have a clue what would work. Harstine Island Nov 11, 2010, North Island off of Sunset Hill Road. I had been hitting the spot hard for about 17 mos. I knew they were in that spot, found tracks, hair, multiple sightings crossing North Island drive just north of Sunset Hill Road over a ten year period. I WAS ABOUT 80 yards off the road checking a camera, got ambushed by two of them, one diverted me the other one stepped out from a tree at 20 yards and growled at me then took of running towards where my car was parked. I thought I was getting flanked so I ran right through the black berries to North Island drive. Once I got to the road I about had a heart attack and crapped my pants. Thats the nutshell version, there is a bit more too it than that.