First rule of thumb is the first one to call someone else an idiot is usually the "real" idiot.Secondly the guy from Ellensburg was probably from Seattle originally.What I passed on to you gentleman(???) was not my opinion, but the facts as derived from 45 years of hunting and fishing on the eastside and first hand observations out in the field and on the river.I hope I made all you westsider's madder than Hell so maybe when you come over to our side you will remember what I said and appreciate our wide open spaces.It's funny this BB started out by one of your one own complaining about this very subject.Again as for the name calling,really grow up. I'll bet you are about 3 feet tall.And I was being nice,I left the word slob out from between Seattle and Sportsman just because I'm a nice guy.Hey, 8footleader how's that for taking the pressure off of you.P.S I won't click on this subject again so save your ranting for the next time.lester