Thanks for the link ... can't say that there's too much new in it, but good to see some more discussion of the interrelationship of the different runs ... wish our managers could get a clue on this one. An outfit named SP Cramer & Assoc. had a study on their website a year or two back talking about the optimum number of salmon spawners per mile for maximum steelhead returns ... way higher than anything this state has seen in recent years. Perhaps we can forward this to every fish bio in Olympia!