Well, yeah Tug. It was also all about Chrome Cod (salmon). Talked to HPA folks about barriers to sculpins; a 6" barrier can extirpate them above it. Nope, salmon can get over that.

Had a couple of other situations where I was told the local political apparatus was powerful enough. Since the streams were small, the numbers not huge (another issue), it was not worth fighting.

In each of these situations we had actual data such as spawner surveys, electrofishing, and trap data to know what the barrier was doing.