Thanks Carcassman for your insight tonight! After fishing down there for 30+ years there are a few BIG fish around. Enjoying all the comments on this thread too. Never fished on the Sacramento in the Fall as I never had to as fishing off Muir or Duxbury especially this time of year was always getting good as in really good! Washington is nice but the 4+ hour trek to Westport for me these days for real ocean fishing is a bit much not like that 40 minute commute to Sausalito at 4:30 AM. California has seen it's ups and downs in the early 80's and was closed for 3 years I believe recently to let the fishery recover could you believe the outcry up here if that ever happened? GGSA has been trucking fish to be released at Ft Baker in the last few weeks (1.5 MILLION so far) to give them a head start to avoid the Delta pumps which is a great idea IMHO. Great conditions the past few years have helped immensely too! No knock on the brothers and sisters down there tonight as their vision seems to be paying off big time this year! BTW Carcassman a story: Trolling down from Duxbury Buoy in early Oct past Nudie Beach and took a hard turn to the West off Slide Ranch and I looked back at that pinned rod in the holder and a Penn 4/0 on clicker that was SCREAMING! End result a 48#-9oz Fall Chinook that was my best California fish! Fun stuff!