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#1011289 - 07/03/19 09:02 AM Have you been Influenced
Idaho Mike Offline

Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 2211
Loc: Post Falls Idaho
in your decisions to purchase marine related products due to the rules and regulations for fishing, which are creating less opportunity. I work part time in the marine electronics industry and it seems a lot of fishermen I talk to are not willing to invest in their boats and gear due to the lack of opportunity.

Just curious how the state of fishing in Washington has affected your marine related buying decisions.
"90% of Life is just showing up and doing the work". Tred Barta Sr.

#1011295 - 07/03/19 09:46 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
Bay wolf Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 10/26/12
Posts: 1075
Loc: Graham, WA
Sold my Arima and bought a 16 ft lake boat...

Heard soooo many stories just like this.

We warned George Harris of the Northwest Marine Trade Association that this was coming...
"Forgiveness is between them and God. My job is to arrange the meeting."

1Sgt U.S. Army (Ret)

#1011301 - 07/03/19 10:27 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
BroodBuster Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3113
Loc: Bothell, Wa
3rd year now without a salt water license.
"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." Ronald Reagan

"The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher.

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." Adolf Hitler

#1011304 - 07/03/19 10:36 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
RogueFanatic Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 348
Loc: Kitsap Co.
Sold big aluminum boat with all the goodies, bought smaller, simpler (CHEAPER) boat. I was amazed the other day by the number of guys fishing for resident coho in MA10 and a buddy said- "What else is there left to fish for?"

Edited by RogueFanatic (07/03/19 10:37 AM)

#1011305 - 07/03/19 10:39 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
large edward Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/17/10
Posts: 276
Loc: Brier, WA
Other than maybe a little terminal tackle and bait, it's been easier than ever for me to decide against buying any new rods or reels, let alone any "major" purchases for my boat. I have more gear than I'll ever use, but that never used to stop me from buying more back when the fishing was worth it.

#1011309 - 07/03/19 11:09 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 6394
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
I have the gear, mostly, but don't buy licenses until there is a real opportunity to fish or hunt. Don't really do much boat fishing as I get seasick too easily and there have been very few days in boat that were very enjoyable.

#1011310 - 07/03/19 11:12 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3133
Not a salt boat owner, so maybe not much of a concern, but I can confidently say that while I used to dream of owning a nice sled (or at least a drift boat), I have no plans to purchase any boats. Not a good investment these days.

#1011311 - 07/03/19 11:20 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
DrifterWA Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 4851
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...

No major purchase in the past 4 years.....don't see any in the immediate future.

Last winter was the 1st season in 50 years, that I chose to not fish winter run steelhead.

Problems with boat launch, changes in the river channels, poor returns of steelhead, to many guides, parking at some GH launch's lacking enough room to park tow rig/trailer.
"Worse day sport fishing, still better than the best day working"

"I thought growing older, would take longer"

#1011314 - 07/03/19 11:45 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7231
Loc: Everett

Bought a new boat, and still buying things for it. Got any good electronics deals? cool

Everything is cyclical IMO. some populations will rebound enough for fisheries, but never like the good old days. Further, If you are willing to travel to where the fish are there is still a lot of opportunity IMO.

If your idea is to sit and wait for banner seasons set in the middle of puget sound, you might as well sell your boat.
You know something bad is going to happen when you hear..."Hey, hold my beer and watch this"

#1011315 - 07/03/19 12:38 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
TedR Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 10/26/09
Posts: 455
Loc: South Sound
First time this year for me not buying my fishing license the first day of the new season and I still haven't needed to buy one. I've shifted my focus to hunting. So, I am probably spending more on license costs overall but I've done so because there are more hunting opportunities that I care about than fishing.

#1011316 - 07/03/19 12:51 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: TedR]
fp Offline
Old Duffer

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 2962
Loc: Hoquiam,WA.USA
Ain't no way I'm gonna quit fishing. I'll be 76 in a couple weeks and I worked my ass off during my working years and gotta enough $ to make it to my end.

Probably one of my kids will get the Willieboat and a ton of gear.

So, in closing, stay home pilgrims, I gotcha covered.


Edited by fp (07/03/19 05:55 PM)

#1011318 - 07/03/19 01:00 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
stonefish Offline
King of the Beach

Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5135
Loc: Carkeek Park
I buy a combo license every year and will do so until I'm covered with dirt.
I just like fishing too much to just sit on the sidelines and bitch about the state of things.
My fishing used to just evolve around salmon and steelhead, but now goes beyond those species.
I probably could drop the freshwater side of things as I very rarely fish it anymore.

There are still some things the state hasn't screwed up if you are willing to look for them. If not, you'll never know.

I already did one out of state fishing trip this year and have another one coming up.

Edited by stonefish (07/03/19 01:01 PM)
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#1011321 - 07/03/19 03:14 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
large edward Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/17/10
Posts: 276
Loc: Brier, WA
Uh, I still fish in WA and again bought my license this year, just like I've done the last 45-50 years. Unfortunately, I've lately been spending just about as much of my time writing our state legislators and supporting organizations like CCA than I have been spending fishing.

I think Idaho Mike's question was related to whether or not the lack of opportunity has influenced whether or not you're still willing to spend significant $ on equipment, and not whether (or not) you still fish in this state.

#1011323 - 07/03/19 04:54 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
thaxor Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 413
Loc: Olympia, WA
I bought a used 18' smokercraft sled in October 2018. Planning on buying some new 25" tubes for the cataraft.
Brother who visits from San Diego 2-3 times a year just dropped $124 on an out of state license.

I'm grumpy about a lot of things fishing related but i still enjoy it too much.

Picked up bass and fly fishing the last few years to fill in the gaps. Another friend bought two tenkara rods... Hooking bluegill on those is a hoot.

Nothing holds a candle to fall King bobber down or winter steelhead swung up on a spoon but I'll keep looking for piscatorial entertainment where available.

#1011324 - 07/03/19 06:04 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
NickD90 Offline
Shooting Instructor for hire

Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7259
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Yes but no. Once a Boat Ho - always a Boat Ho. Someone always has a boat, so I don't have to deal with any buying, selling or maintenance (or Boat Hoes!). Smart men don't own boats. Smart men have friends with boats and then show up with extra money, food, drink and tackle.

But there are less days to fish now and less of my money is being spent on fishing gear, tackle, bait, gas n' food. I've moved over to hunting again to fill the fishing void, so the money I spend goes into the hunting bucket. I'm still spending the same (if not more) and my dollars are staying in the greater outdoor industry (and still being taxed under Pittman for conservation).

If I do decide to buy a boat in the future, I totally plan on taking advantage of one of you current boat owners. Ya'll are gonna to flood the market with used boats for pennies on the dollar.
“If the military were fighting for our freedom, they would be storming Capitol Hill”. – FleaFlickr02

#1011327 - 07/03/19 07:56 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
Kyle_A Offline

Registered: 12/03/00
Posts: 771
Yes. I've quit fishing and sold boats so many times I can't count - directly due to the dismal fishing outlook. Then every October, the bug bites, and I have to go again. I think I'm on my 5th drift boat, and have owned several salt boats. I love fishing with a guide from time to time, but the most enjoyable thing for me is just rowing. Sometimes I float and don't fish at all. I don't think I'll sell my current drift boat, even if they shut down fishing for good. Just too much goodness for the soul floating our rivers.

#1011329 - 07/03/19 08:42 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
SRoffe Offline

Registered: 03/02/08
Posts: 811
My wife influenced me to NOT BUY A BOAT. But, that doesn't stop me from fishing. I like to fish both salt and fresh waters, and am starting to branch out in the non salmonoid species of fish.

Edited by SRoffe (07/03/19 08:43 PM)

#1011333 - 07/03/19 09:48 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
deerlick Offline

Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 585
Loc: around
Yeah 2 new boats this year probably fish 150 days. Definetly no opportunity in Washington just give it all up

#1011335 - 07/03/19 10:06 PM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
CedarR Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1455
Loc: Olympia, WA
Every year I buy a combo fresh and saltwater license. As a senior, it's a reasonable purchase. Most of the return on this "investment" comes from the parking pass; I like to run my brittany on WDFW lands. My boat and trailer haven't been licensed in years. That has cost the state plenty. Now, most of my fishing is jetty and surf fishing. I have enough of that tackle to last until I get swept off a pile of rocks by a rogue wave, or get carried out to sea by an undertow. I used to buy a ton of fishing tackle, bait, marine gas/oil, launch fees and moorage. Lost opportunity, confusing and constantly changing regulations, along with advisory warnings on fish consumption have essentially eliminated those expenditures. The state knows that discretionary income will get spent on something else; likely something taxed. I don't think they care...

#1011338 - 07/04/19 07:12 AM Re: Have you been Influenced [Re: Idaho Mike]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 6394
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Cedar has hit an important point. The State, as in WA, doesn't really give a rat's backside if we fish or not. Do we spend that discretionary money in WA where it can be taxed? If so, the the State wins. WDFW may lose, but the tax income still comes in.

Now, if hunters and anglers spent a significant portion of that discretionary money out of state, or out of country, then the State loses. But, spend it here in WA all's well.

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