I do understand that you toe the party line but you don't have to be so transparent.

Different topic...you don't have to be so predictable, and hack-ish.

Fish on...

Todd

Perhaps he could stop taking money from the tribes so that he does not owe them.


Really, so Gov. Inslee gives the tribes exclusive right to a revenue stream from online sports gambling. You know (I think that you do?) that a healthy percentage of those moneys go into the Democrat party coffers.

Coming from you that's a hoot.

The End of Blackmouth in the Puget Sound.... This saddens me as this was my favorite fishery in the last years Hatchery fish in the winter how can they take that away?

The Democrats have had a 30 year one party rule in this State.

The Tribes have been a huge partner to the Democrats, the more power the Casino's get the more power full the Democrats get...

To say any party in charge would do the same is insane!
So if your boss was stealing money from the company The next in line would steal money as well because that's what people do?
So stupid!

Gregior accepted money from the tribes for favors. Corruption!

Inslee gave favors to the tribes in sports betting monopoly. Corruption!

Obvious examples are there for all to see, but what about the secrets dealings, what happens in the North of Falcon? I will not assume the same people that act corrupt in the open are honest behind closed doors!

Besides the Sanctuary state status Inslee declared, I know 2 Social workers one from pierce county and one from King county. Illegals are getting social services, welfare. Even though it is also the law that illegals shall not receive state benefits hey have well known work arounds.
So again Social Justice warriors, the end justifies the means....

I think there will be a special place in Hell for Jay Inslee and the Democrats!

Blackmouth makes a pretty solid point +1

Blue Frank 0

All I asked is what the Governor could have done to make those seasons different...still no answers, because the answer is "nothing".

Carry on with the rest of the drivel.

Fish on...

Todd

That is not true. You did not ask anything in your rant of a post. You simply made ridiculous claims that I doubt even you believe. But being that you think you asked the question I will give you an answer. He could have vetoed the bill giving the tribes exclusive rights to online sportsgambling.

Tood toes the party line again.

I just want to fish the Skagit for steelhead again. The least he could do is push WDFW to fully fund the Skagit C&R season and maybe make it permanent. What do we have left on the agreement, 1 or 2 years?

What the Governor could do, and should have done back in 2016 is to get off his AS$ and tell the AG to challenge the tribal fast track permit process. That is what the tribes use to bend WDFW over and coerce agreements like the 12% cap on stilli fish, knowing full well it will kill puget sound rec. fishing.

EVERY SINGLE REC FISHERMEN WHO CARES ABOUT OUR SPORT SHOULD BE STORMING THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND DEMANDING AN END TO THE INEQUALITY IN THE NORTH OF FALCON.. THAT IS ROTTON TO THE CORE AND IS KILLING OUR SPORT!

1. The Governor doesn't tell the AG to do anything. That's not how our state government is set up.

2. The tribes have had all of us by the shorthairs since 1974. There is no telling them what to do, or how to do it. None...including telling them that meetings they are at have to be "open". They can just say "no", and there you go.

Fish on...

Todd

From the AG web site. There are more, but for simplicity I just put the ones that looked pertinent.

Roles of the State Attourney General

What the Attorney General's Office DOES do:


Represents the State of Washington before the Supreme Court, the Court of Appeals, and trial courts in all the cases involving the state’s interest and defends in court state officers or employees ethically acting in their official capacities.

Investigates and prosecutes persons accused of crimes at the request of the Governor or a county prosecutor.

Advises the Governor, members of the Legislature, other state officers, and county prosecutors on legal issues.

Gives formal written attorney general’s opinions on constitutional or legal questions at the request of designated public officials.

So, can the Governor ask Ferguson to look into the issue to not?

Sure. So can you. But neither you nor the Governor can make him do it, nor can you either of you make him do it in the way you'd like.

The Governor definitely can't "make him get off his a$$" and do anything.

Fish on...

Todd

And why would sleepy Jay want Ferguson to kill the goose that lays golden eggs?

Your wrong! Back in the day the Dept. of game used to swoop in and remove nets and close tribal fishing when quotas were met. I witnessed it! They have no balls to bump heads and enforce no, anymore is the problem.

What I was driving at is having the AG start looking at the inequality that results in the NOAA permitting process. The BIA's pass through of the tribal permits allows the tribes an unfair advantage over other state citizens. That's all, just work on getting the State and the Tribes to be processed in the exact same manner. That way, the state can have its own permit and remove the leverage.

....never mind.

Before Co-Management, the State (WDF and WDG) had sole responsibility for conservation. I think that is still the way Boldt is worded but the state decided to share conservation responsibility when they agreed to Co-management.

Back then, the State could and did enact closures (e-regs) when either allocation or conservation required it. Most of the time (and this is from the WDF side) the issuance of the reg was pro-forma as both sides generally agreed where we were vis-a-vis harvest as data and updates were real-time.

Salmo and CM know this stuff backwards and forwards, but for those that would like a little history lesson, the following put together many years ago by Fronda Woods of the AGs office gives a nice run down.

https://www.fws.gov/leavenworthfisheriescomplex/who_in_charge_fishing%20(1).pdf

Is this the same Fronda Woods?

Attorney General Bob Ferguson recently honored Senior Assistant Attorney General Dave Stolier and Senior Counsel Fronda Woods with the Attorney General’s 2015 Steward of Justice Award. The award recognizes assistant attorneys general who further the cause of justice through exceptional legal work and extraordinary contributions to the people of Washington.

yes.

It was a rhetorical question.

I was just illustrating that they are denizens of the same swamp, and that a person should not take their words, thoughts and opinions as necessarily correct or true. I do not imply that they are intellectually dishonest, but I do believe that it is a long term job hazard.

People rarely bite the hand that feeds it.