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#1035654 - 08/01/20 10:55 AM Re: WDFW Budget Cuts & It Is Ugly [Re: Rivrguy]
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I don't care for the cut of Kelly Susewind's jib, at least as Director of WDFW. He creates an impression for me of Nero fiddling while Rome burns. He does his happy dance to the WDFW Commission interpreting the dedicated hard work of agency staff. Mind you, I'm not denigrating the staff, but Susewind should at least be aware and acknowledge that the hard work often amounts to naught when the work product is measured in numbers of fish and wildlife and fishing and hunting opportunity. Salmon and steelhead fishing is maybe half of what it was only a few years ago, and for those of us with some institutional memory, it now amounts to 10% of what we had 30 years ago. Fishing wise; I don't know about hunting. I find myself wondering is Director Susewind is even aware of the extent the agency has been throwing recreational fishing under the bus these last 5 years. Time to send another letter.

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#1035657 - 08/01/20 01:02 PM Re: WDFW Budget Cuts & It Is Ugly [Re: Rivrguy]
Carcassman Online   content
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7410
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
I hate to keep saying it, but back in the day...

I started out in WDG, in the Fish Management side. In the first couple of days on the job, my boss told me that I needed to make a decision. There was no right way or wrong way, but either I worked for the fish or for the fishermen. I made the "wrong" choice and ended up working for the ecosystem. But, I seriously doubt that anybody, at least managers, actually work for all the fishermen.

I was all for merger, but that essentially screwed the recreational angler. At the end of the day, I believe that the agency works for the Tribes, as does most of the State. There are reasons for this, but that is how I see things now.

Susewind follows direction from the powerful players, and that isn't the Commission.

Ask yourself, why did the State create the Governor's Salmon Recovery Office if not to ensure that WDFW did what it was told.

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#1035680 - 08/02/20 09:55 AM Re: WDFW Budget Cuts & It Is Ugly [Re: Rivrguy]
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Registered: 10/26/12
Posts: 1075
Loc: Graham, WA
Just a couple of thoughts from someone who's has been intimately involved in the fight to make things better...

1. Kelly Susewind is in way over his head. He not only doesn't have the experience, he lacks the intestinal fortitude to make the decisions needed. His fall back is to do what's expedient, with the least amount of resistance from the Governor. (He's a suck up, plain and simple because that's where he thinks he's safe.)

2. The Commission has been nurtured. They are nothing more than an extension of the political influence. (And we know who has the State by the gonads, and therefor controls the narrative.) They are no longer even trying to give the impression that they work for the stakeholders.

3. Ron Warren protects his position and influence. He uses the division and strife between the Tribal and NT Rec's to justify his importance. The result being, he encourages chaos and fans the flames.

4. Turning over hatchery's to full tribal control is a very sharp double edged sword...especially if we continue to use "marked selective" fisheries. There is a lot of casino money in many of the tribal nations, and they could use that money (initially) to run the hatcheries, but at what point will they stop clipping and declare treaty rights to fish they pay for?

The state of our fisheries is pathetic, and it will probably take a total collapse before any meaningful action will take place. Unfortunately, as with all governmental actions (with huge tribal influence) The results of the action, in all likelihood, is NOT going to be beneficial to recreational fishermen.

From my interactions with the senior leadership and Commissioner's, recreational fishermen in this state are seen as little more than mindless cash cows, thought of as a powerless dope who can be thrown a bone every now and then to pacify. And to a great extent it appears true. There is alway a huge outcry every year when Ron Warren once again sells us out at NOF, yet, once the seasons are announced, everyone buys their license and disappears from the fight.

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#1035682 - 08/02/20 11:16 AM Re: WDFW Budget Cuts & It Is Ugly [Re: Rivrguy]
Carcassman Online   content
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7410
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Neutered. Although it was nurturing that got them neutered.

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#1035686 - 08/02/20 11:37 AM Re: WDFW Budget Cuts & It Is Ugly [Re: Bay wolf]
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4393
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
RW's is an asset because he came up through the ranks and his institutional memory substantial. You would be amazed as to how little current staff know on why past decisions that guide present policy were made let alone who made them. The culture ( or system ) that is WDFW is somewhat self perpetuating simply by the way it operates. It matters little who is Director as whoever it is will still have the same staff and processes. The only Director I remember going for change was Bern Shanks and we all know how that turned out as many staff actively worked to undermine him. The saying then was union contract in one hand, job description in the other and CYA.
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#1035697 - 08/02/20 04:35 PM Re: WDFW Budget Cuts & It Is Ugly [Re: Rivrguy]
Carcassman Online   content
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7410
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Yeah, but RW came through the ranks in Hatcheries and not Management. But you are right, there is no Institutional Memory; they worked very hard to erase it.

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