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#1049911 - 04/01/21 05:03 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: FishDam]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: FishDam
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Originally Posted By: FishDam
Frequent spewing of garbage out of your mouth voids the agreement so that you can be told when you need to STFU.

This is the darkside, bruh. Not many rules. Can’t handle the heat then leave. It’s not like you contribute much of anything except whining and surface level interpretations.

You really seem to enjoy complaining. Always about something. Am I right? I at least give you credit when you say something remotely interesting or accurate, which happens to be approximately 2% of the time.

-FishDam


Sounds like something a bet welcher would say.

lol


Hey, I own it my little friend. No denying it here. I would expect no less from Shillshe if the shoe was on the other foot. The bet only provides more ammunition. He won this time.

-FishDam


Using what someone else might do to justify the gutless and low-down things you are doing is a strange flex.

But you do your Dark Side thing, and I'll pay my Dark Side bets like those that aren't bet welchers do.

You made the bet. Deal with it.

Or don't, and join Welchster and WELCH G. in that other category.
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#1049918 - 04/01/21 07:47 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1882
Loc: Spokane WA
Originally Posted By: extremesteelhead
I've already posted, I use the bandana. Show me studies that show me, who doesn't have covid-19, wearing a bandana helps you not get it. If not, why force people to wear masks but allow a useless bandana?


Again, as already mentioned.

You don't "know" you don't have it, not having symptoms doesn't mean you're not positive. Testing negative today doesn't mean you won't test positive tomorrow.

Not spewing your spittle on the rest of us reduces the potential for others possibly being infected.

The people that think they're far smarter than the actual experts on infectious diseases think none of it is true because it doesn't fit into the reality and facts they "want or need" to believe.

Those in charge know this segment needs a way to show how smart they are by not following the recommendations of the real experts. So letting them wear a bandana and show they can't be intimidated by a hoax disease or caught doing something for the social good, is felt to be better than nothing.


This whole approach to limiting the spread has been dumbed down to accommodate those that can't, or won't follow simple precautions.

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#1049926 - 04/01/21 09:13 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1882
Loc: Spokane WA
My brother in law and sister both tested positive this week, to top it off she tested positive for breast cancer on the same day.

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#1049931 - 04/01/21 10:03 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ondarvr]
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I'm Idaho!

Registered: 08/15/14
Posts: 3624
Originally Posted By: ondarvr
My brother in law and sister both tested positive this week, to top it off she tested positive for breast cancer on the same day.


Sorry to hear about your sister.
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#1049932 - 04/01/21 10:05 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
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I'm Idaho!

Registered: 08/15/14
Posts: 3624
Lest you all forget Cleveland steamer came up with Bingo Wings, that in and of itself should allow him a lifetime pass to the dark side.
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#1049933 - 04/01/21 10:06 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ondarvr]
FishDam Offline
Smolt

Registered: 02/27/21
Posts: 92
Originally Posted By: ondarvr
My brother in law and sister both tested positive this week, to top it off she tested positive for breast cancer on the same day.


Sorry to hear. Fingers crossed for a quick recovery.

-FishDam

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#1049935 - 04/01/21 10:08 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: dwatkins]
FishDam Offline
Smolt

Registered: 02/27/21
Posts: 92
Originally Posted By: dwatkins
Lest you all forget Cleveland steamer came up with Bingo Wings, that in and of itself should allow him a lifetime pass to the dark side.


I have a feeling a few gems were missed... clouded by political hatred. It’s all good though.

-FishDam

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#1049936 - 04/01/21 10:17 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ]
FishDam Offline
Smolt

Registered: 02/27/21
Posts: 92
Originally Posted By: Coming Soon
At least do a better job of pretending to be someone else next time.


It’s not like I was trying to hide it. Ripping on illshee was a pretty dead giveaway. Anyone with half a brain could figure it out. Sad thing was Sheepshee The Evo Leftie was the one who noticed it first. Doesn’t reflect very good on you.

-FishDam

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#1049939 - 04/01/21 10:27 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
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Loc: zipper
There are plenty of credible sources to get information on Covid other than Chehalis WalMart or Barrier Dam.
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#1049941 - 04/01/21 10:30 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ondarvr]
snit Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1844
Loc: Wenatchee, WA
Originally Posted By: ondarvr
My brother in law and sister both tested positive this week, to top it off she tested positive for breast cancer on the same day.


Such shytty news for you and your family! My condolences.
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#1050028 - 04/02/21 01:52 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7232
Loc: Everett
Sorry to hear this Jody, hoping for positive outcomes to her.

I started off during this pandemic partially afflicted by all the fear mongering, and rightfully skeptic about the claims. I soon took it seriously and have had a hard time watching natural selection affect those who dont. Inside and outside my own family. One truth about the 'rona is, it helped everyone see how smart or f*cking stupid their friends and family really are.

I got my second shot Wednesday, after being a anti vaxxer of sorts to begin with.

I now have a really good fishing buddy who many of you know where who is only 36, Strong and healthy, who is hospitalized with Covid. Super low 02 levels and im praying for him and his family every day. TBH, he was one of the non believers to begin with, and I bet that tube strapped to his face has altered some thoughts over the last week. It's been a tough ride for him.

Moral is, if you think this is a Hoax and wanna parade around without a mask on, you'll very likely soon find out the hard way you were wrong.

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#1050030 - 04/02/21 01:57 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ]
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The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7232
Loc: Everett
Originally Posted By: extremesteelhead
Originally Posted By: Sky-Guy
Moral is, if you think this is a Hoax and wanna parade around without a mask on, you'll very likely soon find out the hard way you were wrong.


You want to place a bet on that? If I die of Corona within the next year, you can have $1000 out of my estate. If a year from now, I still live, you pay $1000. Deal?


You go ahead and play natural selection roulette. I want no part of it. I'm going fishing.
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#1050033 - 04/02/21 02:14 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4214
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
I hope your sister and brother in law get through this well. My wife's friend came over last weekend and she just had breast cancer surgery last month. She may have to do chemo.

My mother in law got the virus last year at her assisted living facility and was just diagnosed with lung cancer. We're going to see her next weekend. Seems that the virus made her memory worse.
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#1050034 - 04/02/21 02:32 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1882
Loc: Spokane WA
Originally Posted By: extremesteelhead
Originally Posted By: ondarvr
You don't "know" you don't have it, not having symptoms doesn't mean you're not positive. Testing negative today doesn't mean you won't test positive tomorrow.


What are the actual odds of that x the actual odds of getting infected by me if I were infected if I am not wearing a face diaper? If you can't quantify the risk you have no right to order me around over some vague improbable event. If you are worried about the risk of an extremely improbable even, why don't you just stay home or social distance from me? Why does your unreasonable unquantified fear allow you to control others? Why not just control yourself and let people take the risks they are willing to take. I am willing to risk going out with no mask, and if you are correct about the risk and are not just a frightened coward, show me the numbers.


I honestly expected a better response from you, this was right out of the denier handbook.

Your logic as presented is.
Since this is a brand new virus, and we haven't had time to accumulate data or review it, I can make up my own rules and believe anything I want.

The data is there for the effectiveness of maskes in general and for other diseases, so is distancing and taking other precautions.

You can throw out all that data and consider it useless, or error on the safe side and do the unthinkable... by wearing a proper mask.

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#1050039 - 04/02/21 03:38 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1882
Loc: Spokane WA
It appears you purposely avoid much of the data because it doesn't agree with your preconceived opinions.

Being skeptical is fine, but don't be stupid while doing it.

And the box you pointed to is part of the dumbing down needed to help some people be a bit safer. And I'm hoping you're smart enough to understand why anything over your mouth and nose is better than nothing.

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#1050040 - 04/02/21 04:34 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1882
Loc: Spokane WA
Here's my last two weeks of cowering in fear.

I was in Butte MT, SLC UT, St George UT, Las Vegas, Palm Springs, Riverside CA, then back north on the same route. Plus worked with customers and in our lab for a week.

I hiked in Zion National Park, Kolob Canyon, Valley of Fire state park, Capitol Reef NP, Joshua Tree National Park, Mohave National Preserve, plus a couple places in the hills around Riverside CA. I was going to stop by Yellowstone on the way back but the temps were around zero in the park.

Also arranged a future fishing trip in Flaming Gorge with a customer.

I have my shots and out of common courtesy used a KN95 mask at all times in public places, with customers, and in the lab.

It's terrible how the "MAN" is controlling my life, I can't actually believe how oppressed I am by wearing a mask.

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#1050042 - 04/02/21 04:54 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
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No Stars for You!

Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 2271
Loc: T-Town
I don’t think anyone here is denying that masks offer some level of protection against the virus. I also don’t think it takes a scientist to determine that any type of barrier is better than nothing. With that said, the effectiveness of masks is what is debatable because the very limited science does in fact say masks offer protection against the virus but that it is minimal. I don’t mind wearing masks in certain situations, but in others it certainly is bit extreme and can be an inconvenience.

The problem most people have is the research suggests limited effectiveness at best, yet instead of masks being recommended they are mandated. My guess is there would only be a slightly lower compliance rate if masks were recommended verses mandated. Most reasonable people will wear masks when appropriate and not wear them when it isn’t necessary. People should have the ability to exercise their own discretion instead of being forced to comply with arbitrary rules that are rooted in limited science and do not provide a measurable difference.

Most importantly to note, mask effectiveness is maximized through proper usage and hygiene practices. Most people shove the mask in their pocket when not needed and forego washing their hands. They will also touch their masks to adjust without hand washing as well. Practices such as these nullify the benefits the mask is intended to provide.

-FishDam/Streamer
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#1050046 - 04/02/21 05:24 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1882
Loc: Spokane WA
People use the results of the least effective masks to imply all masks provide minimal protection.

Yes, a bandana provides minimal effectiveness compared to an N95. It seems very easy to understand a mask designed for this purpose would perform much better than a snot rag.

A surgical type mask was never designed for this purpose either, so obviously it won't perform as well, but is better than a bandana or nothing.

This ain't hard folks, but some people make it that way.

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#1050051 - 04/02/21 06:18 PM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: ]
ondarvr Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1882
Loc: Spokane WA
Originally Posted By: extremesteelhead
Then mandate N95s or fvck off.


I'd go for that, but even a bandana is difficult for many people.

The bandana group tends to forget they have a nose.

Or move to Utah, if you listen to the locals covid doesn't exist there.

I frequent a hotel chain that is rather strict on masks, even in Utah. Plus they claim to do extra cleaning. Weekends in tourist areas are crowded now, but weekdays the hotels are empty.

The National Parks were full of very safety compliant people.

I travel alone in the car, so that's fine.

Most of the meals were take-out, or I bought groceries and prepared it in the room.

I ate inside at one restaurant in Utah, again, covid doesn't exist there, so it was safe.

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#1050110 - 04/05/21 08:23 AM Re: Guess who caught the hoax? [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
"My convenience and desire to be anti-most things is far more important than possibly someone's life".

Good on you.

Fish on...

Todd
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