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#1068073 - 08/25/26 01:59 PM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET *** [Re: Carcassman]
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I recall fishing Elliott Bay one time, for Falls, and they were jumping quite a bit. Of course, these are Green River fish, so they were smaller than many other Chinook.


So, do smaller king salmon usually jump more than larger kings as a rule vs. the other Puget Sound river’s kings, or just the Green River /Soos and Keta Cr. hatchery king salmon ? I assume they do this to acclimate from salt to fresh water living ?

I’m not an Elliot Bay Salmon Fisher, spending most of my time around the Puyallup Terminal areas, and Commencement Bay, where one can find three differing fall salmon in the C bay at the same time. Pinks, Coho, and Kings in late August -1st of September, and they all would show- jump, but looking back in time, Pinks would be all over the bay rolling and jumping, the Coho and Kings closer to the River mouth, and a lot more Coho than Kings jumping ? We just thot it was a numbers driven game ?

Now back to the Chehalis, my tiny brain hurts ....
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#1068074 - 08/25/26 04:22 PM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
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The easy answer, and I have absolutely no data to support it, is that it is numbers driven. Say 1% of the fish jump. You have a million pinks, 50,000 coho, and 10,000 chinook.

I do remember that some bios in the 60s and 70s used "jumpers" as a way to evaluate run size. So that gives credence to the idea.

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#1068079 - Yesterday at 10:06 AM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: Carcassman]
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Ok then, we kinda agree, it’s likely a numbers game, and not a condition of size that had the smaller sized Green River kings jumping.

Whew, definitely better now...

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#1068080 - Yesterday at 10:11 AM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
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Weather change a comin.

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#1068081 - 41 minutes 33 seconds ago Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: RUNnGUN]
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Been since the seventies that I remember the misty morning burn off nice days weather. Sure beats heat and rain pays to be lucky!
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#1068082 - 23 minutes 15 seconds ago Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
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Talking to Lyle he explained the lack of adult Coho retention during Jack seasons is about the number of fishers and simple math. The Chehalis had only 495 harvestable Chinook for QIN and NT fisheries. 247 Chinook for NT fisheries bay inland is not much of a number to work with. So it is creating a season for Coho using the catch and release mortality. NT commercials are modeled at 89 impacts Chehalis Tribal is 155 which comes out of the NT share. The bay is modeled at 137 Chinook C&R impacts with fresh water at 129 Chinook C&R impacts. Not much wiggle room with those numbers!

So not to beat a dead horse but Chinook intercepts for all Grays Haror streams is BC 3139 and SE Alaska 5076 so that is where our Chinook go. We get nothing into the bay but escapement and a few fish. And so it goes!
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