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#1063772 - 04/19/24 09:35 PM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET *** [Re: Rivrguy]
Tug 3 Offline
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Registered: 03/06/14
Posts: 268
Loc: Tumwater
Chris Conklin was the regional director. Came up from Habitat Division. I think the R6 Directors all suffer from the bad decisions made in Olympia. I liked Larry Phillips personally, but the decisions out of Olympia and Montesano?????? He had to eat a lot of crow. (You guys should try to keep up on current events LOL)

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#1063773 - 04/25/24 07:01 AM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: Tug 3]
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With the massive harvest of Grays Harbor Chinook by AK & BC I think this is relevant.




To save orcas, agencies should suspend salmon fishing

Michael W. Shurgot

For The Everett Herald

Several recent scientific reports on the perilous state of Northwest salmon and Southern Resident killer whales collectively indicate that severely curtailing regional fishing practices, including and especially in Alaska, is now absolutely necessary if our salmon and orcas are to survive.

Collectively, these reports are unequivocal.

First, a report issued on Jan. 22 by Fisheries and Oceans Canada: Canada documented that 30,000 chinook salmon had been destroyed as “bycatch” by hake and walleye pollock fishers during the 202223 ground fishing season. Sydney Dixon, a marine specialist with Canada’s Pacific Wild, estimated that the destroyed fish could have fed three or four mature orcas for an entire year.

This waste of this precious natural resource is unconscionable. It also emphasizes a truth that national and state regulatory agencies, such as the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, must face: The fishing industry is often wasteful and destructive, and the dangers of more salmon being dumped overboard as “bycatch” in Pacific Northwest and Alaska waters must be eliminated immediately.

Second, an intriguing map that was part of NOAA’s Jan. 20, 2022 report, “Ocean’s Influence on Salmon Plays Out in Varied Returns to Different Rivers and Regions,” visualizes scientists’ understanding of the migration patters taken by several fish stocks: Puget Sound, Lower Columbia, Snake River/ Oregon, and northern B.C. stocks. While these fish originate in vastly different regions, they share the waters and food of the Gulf of Alaska as they mature.

As the 2002 NOAA report details, nearly all Pacific Northwest salmon runs, regardless of their disparate origins, are declining rapidly. Further, in his research project, “Loss of Fecundity in Washington Chinook Population,” published March 1, 2024 at WildSteelheaders.org, Gary Marston writes that in the populations he and his team studied “there were significant reductions in body size across all age classes of female chinook between 2009 and 2017.” Marston concludes: ”[W] ith chinook returning at smaller sizes, and therefore producing fewer eggs and offspring, traditional fishery regimes could easily lead to over-exploiting the populations.”

Given the shared waters of the Gulf of Alaska, the alarming decrease in female chinook size and their reproductive potential and the already severely depleted fish stocks in most West Coast rivers, regulators must

now consider ending all commercial salmon fishing in Alaska, especially by trawlers.

Maps are guesses. Fish mingle. All salmon caught in Alaska’s waters are potential food for the starving orcas of the Salish Sea, and the fish that do return are smaller and less productive than they have been historically. Commercial fishing should also be severely curtailed in Washington waters, especially the Strait of Juan de Fuca where many commercial fishers operate. Further, the state Fish and Wildlife departments does not “allocate” Puget Sound fish for killer whales, only for fishers. This must change: Whales first, then fishers.

Finally, new research published April 5 in Communications Earth & Environment by Wild Fish Conservancy projects “a rapid population collapse [of Southern Resident killer whales] in roughly 40 years’ time from maintenance of the status-quo.” The report urges transitioning from ocean-based fishing to river-based locations, a change that would “immediately increase critical wild chinook salmon for (Salish Sea orcas).”

The authors urge swift action. “In a declining population the longer the lag time between knowledge and mitigation, the more draconian the recovery actions can become, with a larger social cost and a higher risk that harm reduction actions may not work.”

As Joe Gaydos, science director of the SeaDoc Society, recently commented, “We are talking about making some big changes in the next couple of generations of killer whales, or we are out of time.”

Michael W. Shurgot is a retired professor of humanities at South Puget Sound Community College. He lives in Seattle.

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#1063775 - 04/25/24 10:30 AM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: Rivrguy]
Tug 3 Offline
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Loc: Tumwater
This says it all. But it's been said many times on this board. We need a total change in management and new policies. I have some optimism if the right guy gets elected to governor. We'll see.

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#1063776 - 04/25/24 12:57 PM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 04/25/00
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4/25/2024


When PP posters talk about food for Orcas, the Salmon fish of choice is not Chum, Coho, Sockeye or Chinook BUT SPRING CHINOOK.

I don't know the ocean tracking of Spring Chinook but if Orcas are a high priority then there needs to be curtailments of any ocean, major rivers, NT netters and less priority of sport seasons.

Tough times call for better protection of Spring Chinook.
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#1063777 - 04/25/24 01:32 PM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7435
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
While Chinook may be preferred by SRKWs they certainly eat the other species when Chinook aren't around. Back about 20-25 years ago they cleaned out the Dyes Inlet runs of chum in December. To claim Chinook are their only food is a ploy to get Chinook specific actions taken like removal of the Snake River dams.

The fisheries that need essentially closure until definite recovery occurs are the marine mixed stock fisheries, including those that take the salmon's food resources and have salmon as (wasted) bycatch. Once the salmon have passed the whales, protection is not needed. That means that in-river fisheries, constrained by escarpment goals, can proceed. If the whales start moving upriver to eat, this may need reconsideration.

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#1063779 - 04/26/24 03:29 PM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
eddie Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 2433
Loc: Valencia, Negros Oriental, Phi...
Well done C'man!
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#1063782 - 04/27/24 09:29 AM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
SpoonFed Offline
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Registered: 01/29/19
Posts: 1521
Nailed it carcass. Ive witnessed on multiple accounts while fishing the ps, that whatever is running at the time, is the pesca-de-jour for srkw's. Especially when the chum are in. Picky eating and killer whales dont jive.

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#1063783 - 04/27/24 05:48 PM Re: FISHINGTHECHEHALIS.NET [Re: eyeFISH]
Carcassman Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7435
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Part of the problem is we damn well know how many fish we need to have returning to PS (entering the Straits) for the SRKWs. WDFW has (I know they had) a data base of adult salmon of all species and timings entering PS from the late 60s/early 70s. It includes hatchery and wild so you know the fish numbers. Pretty sure WDG had steelhead numbers but it was more likely catch as I am not sure they really did escapement numbers until Boldt. But, that is still a long-term data set. You can convert that to biomass, as you have the catch data, and even the timing so you know day to day what adult biomass was available. You can add to that the Fraser pink and sockeye, which goes back even further. I don't know how good the DFO data is for Fraser and southern BC adults, but they must have something.

That can be compared to the known numbers of whales. The problem is finding the huevos to ensure that many adult salmon return.

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