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#1062769 - 11/10/23 07:33 AM Control by ESA
I'm Still RichG Offline
Fallen Off The Deep End

Registered: 08/16/21
Posts: 557
Its all a pile of lies and deceit.

Exploit the fish runs via overfishing "commercial/Boldt Decision" blame human environmental impact for fished out fish runs,, also cut hatchery production at the same time to give the impression of crashed fish runs. Blame reduced hatchery production on poor marine survival and impact to wild fish.

All for the purpose of control and manipulation under the ESA

Create the problem with a pre planned solution.

The One Bank did the same thing with the Buffalo in the mid 1800's, they exterminated the herds of 5 to 7 billion so that they could cut off the free food supply, they wanted to put up fences and control the people and the land... Same play book now but with Salmon being used as a tool... All artificial just like our Elections.

Nobody is elected,, all appointed by the One Central Bank because the elections are rigged. "Fruits of the Poisonous Tree,,, when the tree is poison all the fruit is poison"
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#1062774 - 11/12/23 07:17 AM Re: Control by ESA [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6222
Loc: zipper
some of the street drugs coming from Mexican cartels into the US cause psychotic effects never seen before in the downtrodden
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#1062775 - 11/12/23 05:36 PM Re: Control by ESA [Re: I'm Still RichG]
Swami Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 02/19/00
Posts: 171
Loc: Everett,Wa
How's the cool-aid? smile

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#1062776 - 11/13/23 06:42 AM Re: Control by ESA [Re: I'm Still RichG]
Carcassman Online   content
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7884
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Although I won't wander off into the Kool-Aid fueled weeds it was obvious to me, from the inside, that without ESA there would be no meaningful protection of habitat for listed species, much less anything else. At some level it is a hammer to force Gubmint to protect habitat.

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#1062777 - 11/13/23 08:41 AM Re: Control by ESA [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13699
It took the ESA listings and Jeopardy Biological Opinions to get the US Army Corps of Engineers to build the new fish passage for Mud Mountain Dam and Howard Hanson Dam (the latter still being in the planning and design phase).

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#1062779 - 11/13/23 10:25 AM Re: Control by ESA [Re: I'm Still RichG]
Carcassman Online   content
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7884
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
I just remember that when WA defended itself in front of the Supremes on the Culvert Case that our AG's office made the claim that the state could;d blow away fish runs in the name of "progress". They lost that argument but you can see where they come from.

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