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#1065454 - 01/29/25 06:15 AM IRS literally is going to get dissolved
I'm Still RichG Offline
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Trump officially requested congress draft a bill to dissolve the IRS...

If the IRS is gone then the FED is dead without ability to collect revenue ...

The new Treasury Secretary said his full intention was to end the IRS and income tax and put the country back on the Gold Standard...

Trump keeps talking about the " Golden Age",,, pretty sure he means we are going back on the Gold Standard...

Between 1870 and 1913 the United States funded the entire government on Tariffs,, there were no taxes...

Trump freezing 3 trillion of the budget by freezing all the grants and loans...

Looks like Trump is going after the corporate government with a sledge hammer...
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#1065461 - 01/29/25 09:13 AM Re: IRS literally is going to get dissolved [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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Dissolving the IRS is one of the stupidist suggestions ever. Unless one's goal is to destroy the United States. Governments need revenue in order to operate. Anyone who thinks tariffs alone can fund the US government is stupid beyond belief. Think about why the US Congress developed the income tax. Just maybe it was because tarriffs didn't produce sufficient revenue to fund the US government as it existed in the late 1800s. If it didn't then, it would take an econ idiot to think that it would in the early 21st century.

Now, don't get me wong. I don't like paying taxes either. However, I understand why and that they are necessary. Anyone with a brain knows that.

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#1065465 - 01/29/25 09:43 AM Re: IRS literally is going to get dissolved [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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Dissolving the IRS and abolishing federal income taxes can work if also coupled with reduced federal spending. I think we can all agree that there is plenty of government fat that can be trimmed.



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#1065476 - 01/30/25 10:06 AM Re: IRS literally is going to get dissolved [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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The last US budget was roughly $6.75 trillion. Without going into whose sacred cow should or shouldn't be gored, where would you find this gov't fat? I ask because most Americans, conservative and liberal, are woefully ignorant about gov't spending. Roughly 76% of the budget goes to "mandatory" spending obligations, leaving a mere 24% that is discretionary.

Here's a breakdown:

Social Security 21%
Medicare, medicaid 25
Defense 13
Veterans 7
Economic security 6
Education 5
Transportation 2
Ag & nat resources 1
Science & med research 1
Law enforcement 1
International 1
Other 5

Here's your chance; tell us where we can cut, and how much, and importantly, why. I'll start with the generalization that it would usually be a low risk to reduce many areas by 10 to 15%. Congress should start by allowing Medicare & medicaid to negotiate drug prices and other fees like other nations' health plans do. And if Congress hadn't allowed so many violations of the anti-trust act, there would be more competition between defense industries, so defense acquisitions could be way cheaper. My guess is that there is more room in defense than any other category to reduce costs. Since I'm an old guy, I'm not keen on cutting my SS, having paid into it since 1965. Congress deserves a very black eye for mismanaging SS by mingling it with the general fund. So take a shot, Streamer, find that gov't fat that so many talk about, yet consistently fail to identify. Oh, and while you're at it, do show us how that balances out while dissolving the IRS and income tax. Please show your work.


Edited by Salmo g. (01/30/25 10:08 AM)

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#1065477 - 01/30/25 11:12 AM Re: IRS literally is going to get dissolved [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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Registered: 02/15/21
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“Now, don't get me wong. “

Little chance of that happening ...

Wrong !
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#1065485 - 01/31/25 11:47 AM Re: IRS literally is going to get dissolved [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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Lol
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#1065493 - 02/01/25 10:36 AM Re: IRS literally is going to get dissolved [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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Oh, but you don't have any budget recommendations, eh? What's up with that?

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#1065495 - 02/01/25 10:45 AM Re: IRS literally is going to get dissolved [Re: I'm Still RichG]
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