This Election is the one that the Military is going to use to show the American people the Extent of the Election Fraud and how its done... After Certification...

This will tie directly back to the 2020 Election and the unlawful certification of said election...

Election reform will not be done via this Legislative Branch,, what it will end up showing is that our entire government is corrupt,, serving without actually being legally elected,, that they have been knowingly certifying rigged elections... This will trickle down to the state and local level,, even the red states... They are all running the same fraud scheme..

No one is elected,, not even Trump,, Trump is a Military installed President,, we have been under a covert Military Government since 2016...

We have been working our way through a reset this entire time...

This WAR has been over the power to create and issue currency,, being taken from the Central Banking Cartel and returned to the individual nations...

To make it clear,, Trump is the peoples selection/choice but he is not elected...

Its a matter of legal definition under the legal principal of "Fruits Of The Poisonous Tree"

The Tree, its roots and fruit is all poison,, everything it touches is poison and invalid... Once this is openly known and accepted it can no longer stand as a legitimate body/representation under the US Constitution and Republic Of The United States...

We will end up in a situation of an Official Military Government under the 1949 Military government manual... Temporary,, until order can be restored and new elections can proceed...

I know this sounds far out there and impossible but wait and see...

Rich, what is far out there is believing that Trump is a militarily installed president. I have the respect and confidence that the US military is the most competent in the world. If they were going to install a president, I am confident that they would have chosen a competent person instead of Trump.

you may need to re think your capabilities of judgement and your gift of discernment...

its apparent in your being stuck in a belief that the system we are in actually works or even can work?

It's not actually the basic system that is the problem as its designed to work well,, what the problem is the introduction of the fiat/debt expansion part of it under the central bank model.. The Corporate model under a debt system,, it only works for a while due to currency devaluation and devaluation if the value of ones labor...

In 1964 minimum wage was $1.15 that is equal to about $50.00 per hour today... So our labor under progressive devaluation is worth 33.33 times less than it was at the end of the time Silver circulated as currency and all price points on all goods and services were relative to the value of Silver...

The debt model has facilitated a massive government expansion that has not done us any good compared to a higher labor value and low prices...

Our government model under debt expansion has facilitated bad Fish management and over harvest because of devalued currency and devalued labor... Basically bad management policy/practice because of Greed,, the needing to consume and expand more because of currency devaluation and debt to make up currency devaluation shortfalls to maintain a slow decline of quality of life and experience.. Slow enough as to not cause alarm and resistance from the people...

I'm reconsidering my comment about competence in the military. Defense Secretary Hegsesth - an incompetent moron if ever there was one - has fired some of the military's best talent, so overall competence within the US military system may be declining significantly. leaving the country at higher risk if an international conflict breaks out. Replacing talent with ass kissers does not bode well for our nation's security.

I think Uncle Joe Stalin tried to get an army of ass-kissers in the 30s. That didn't work well for them in the early 40s. Then, apparently, they went for competence rather than over ass-kissing.

SG I am a two tour combat vet by choice and frankly our soldiers have done okay in recent years. That said the rules of engagement and tactics particulary from Obama forward were wayyyyy past stupid. I had a good CO who drove home the purpose of the military is kill maim and destroy in defense of or in the name of the american people. Nothing else mattered and his stated objective was what I said with this addition. " To get us all home alive" . Once after a situation that we did not know how to deal with he said " when in doubt shoot we will sort it out later " Combat is ugly keeping our people alive and killing the oposition without remorse is required.

I hate war it serves no rational purpose but if you have to fight then you kill the SOB's not run around worrying about perception or how the oposition feels. My CO said one other thing that stuck." When up against a foe who is willing to die for his cause, talking is of no use you simply help him achieve that goal"

That is how you fight a war.

RG, I was reading a book about the Navy in the Pacific and how they figured out supply lines and then carried the war to Japan. What actually scared me was that "the foe was willing to die for his cause" caused the US to consider poison gas on Iwo and then for the invasion of the home islands. If the Japanese people and soldiers were simply willing to die and not surrender then why not? The US didn't, but that ethical question remains.

Rivrguy,

I don't disagree with your assessment of the role or purpose of armed conflict. (To quote General George Patton, "No one won a war by dying for his country; you win a war by making the opposing SOB die for his country.") My comments above are directed at the current administration and its deleterious effect on the armed services. The military, like all federal employees, take an oath to the US Constitution, not to any particular leader. Unfortunately for the US, the current president demands loyalty to him over and above loyalty to the Constitution. That is un-American, and that is my complaint.

Conservatives are generally more consistent with following the constitution than Democrats or progressives. Trump more closely aligns with the constitution than any recent Democratic candidates have.


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SG there are those who serve and those who choose not to but we take the oath for sure but few fight for that in a real sense. To say the troops who fight in wars is about the constitution is a real reach. Most fight for the nation but a better way to say it is the american people. When [Bleeeeep!] flies you fight for your guys your unit just so all survive. In my three years of service after being sworn in never did I hear fight for the constitution. For country, for freedom, against communism to keep the world safe ( which was a true load of BS ) many things but never the that piece of paper. The ideals in it yes but never the political views many attached to it. A picture of the president is in every units head quarters as the president is the cammander in chief. From the bottom to the top you follow the chain of command and in Nam Westmoreland missed it. Stormin Norman got it right Iraq as did Jack Keane later but always this american values are not those of most of the world. Those who serve do get it and soldiers pray thier leader does also. We have had a series of presidents who put our troops in harms way fighting foolish wars for what? The present one seems to hate war and in my view is to hate war is far better than send our kids to get thier bodies blown to bits for nothing.

In the end SG you might be right but at the moment I think not. Spending billions of $$ and thousands of lives is the way many administrations of both parties have operated. I am up to letting a new approach be tried and retiring those who think the only way to do things is getting our kids killed. Time to try something different.

I see that your sense of humor is hitting full stride.

Rivrguy, I think we are addressing entirely different subjects. The current president wants generals who are loyal to him first, over and above loyalty to the country, its Constitution, or anything else. That is un-American.

What I posted SG was opinion based upon real time experience but yours is opinion also but based upon others opinion not facts. Little difference SG. Two types of officers administrative and tactical. Best examples I have is IKE was administrative Patton was tactical. What we have done is add a bus load of paper pushing generals when we need field officers of all ranks that know how to fight. Getting rid of officers of all ranks that do not and cannot or will not fight with the merciless focus combat requires is not a bad thing for the enlisted troups.

All should try this to understand how our not so perfect our country can be this. When the paper pushers figured out they could not win in Nam they started Phoenix. Do a seach and be prepared for your view of our nation to be challenged.

I appreciate your perspsective Rivrguy. Again, my point is not that Hegsgeth got rid of fighting talent, he got rid of officers who are more loyal to our nation and insufficiently loyal to Trump. That, as they say, is a difference with a distinction. Don't be fooled that Hegsgeth is keeping the good war fighters; he is keeping the good ass kissers. That's not such a good thing for the nation.

Now Salmo, can you please describe the actions and attributes of these Hegseth “ass kissing fighters vs the good war fighters” you have worries about all of us being fooled by ?

As an ex military war fighter, along with others who served here, we need to understand your war fighting worries for us to consider moving forward.

I’m sure they are based upon your many years of “good war fighting “ service in the active duty military that helps give credibility to this alarm .

Not based on personal experience as I am not personally acquainted with Pentagon brass. However I read and hear Hegseth, and he speaks the words of a dipsh!t. As for other evidence, let's note that six members of Congress, veterans of the CIA and armed forces, made a video reminding all service members that they must refuse illegal orders. That is a tough spot to be in because what is legal or illegal is decided by the winners. To the point, however, a JAG officer advised that the military strikes against boats off Venezuela and the eastern Pacific are not legal. That advise was overridden by Trump goons at DOJ.

Ahh yes, speaking the words of a dipshit ? Makes sense you’re putting that evidence up as your number one pick, as it sounds like someone speaking from experience...

Are you seriously defending Hegseth as somebody with more than half a brain and remotely qualified to lead the Dept. of Defense? If so, wow.

Naw, not defending Pete, just trying to determine your expertise in/on Dipshytish language. I now know that you are truly multilingual, and will come back to you as the local xspurt for further Dipshytish interpretations...

Sounds about right. Salmo used to be seen as thoughtful with reasonable perspective. Now he is purely consumed by hatred, manipulated BS politics and really went off the deep end.



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Sane people see Salmo as thoughtful and reasonable. Fascists probably don't.

About the only thing(s) I hate are brussels sprouts and mosquitos. Hate requires energy. I wouldn't waste energy on people, even if they are despicable.

If despicable was a sport, streamer would be all world.
Sig hiale facist degenerate.
Your stench permeates this website.

Lol. Sane salmo? You sure do waste alot of energy here hating on orange man bad. Ive heard the only cure for hate is to eat more Brussel sprouts.

that stench is the brussys. A Real mans veggie. And imagine chomping at the bit for a week of pp being down, to come right here to cry and hate on trump. Now that takes some energy.

Spoony,


The shillster (illahee in case anyone forgot such as Salmo) has to be one of the angriest people I have seen on the internet. I actually feel sorry for him because there is a lot more to life than being upset with people from the internet you've never met before, or being mad at the orange man (someone I assume he's never met).


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OK, you made me laugh with that remark about eating more brussel sprouts. I don't think I'm wasting energy here, and especially hating. I don't hate on the orange man; I simply despise him because I despise fascism. And Trump acts like a fascist in case you haven't noticed. I think MAGAtards are so preoccupied washing Trump's balls that they overlook or really don't mind fascism.

Trump sucks Putin's dick. If you don't think that's true, then tell us what Trump has done to stand up to Putin.

It's been great living in your head rent free.

That’s not how I usually describe a situation when someone looks up to or admires another.

Is this what you think about Salmo? Does this thought bring you particular excitement?



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Illahee,


People like you bring me great entertainment and also remind me of how thankful I am to be happy and almost carefree. You are miserable all the time and I feel bad for you.

With that said, you’re always more than welcome to jump in my boat and salmon fish with me during the summer. I find joy in putting others onto fish, and by the looks of it, you could use a fish or two.


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You conveniently didn't respond to the key point: " If you don't think that's true, then tell us what Trump has done to stand up to Putin."

Salmo,

Not responding to key points seems to be the theme around here bud. You should know. Lol.

But what’s more concerning is you didn’t deny having particular excitement about Trump performing fellatio on Putin… you really are bizarre.


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No excitement Streamer; that's you making sh!t up to fit your narrative. Trump sucking Putin just adds another layer, a very thick one, to his overall despicable nature. Sucking up to Putin can be seen as traitorous to U.S. interests.

Salmo,


You are the one that chose to use a sexual analogy to describe Trumps relationship to Putin. Most likely because you are a deranged, perverse, sexual deviant who is overly obsessed with hating Trump and have bizarre sexual fantasies. While Biden is far worse than Trump, I don’t nearly hate Biden as much as you hate Trump and I also don’t use sexual analogies with other men when I describe him. You’re bizarre bro.


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People do not understand what has been going on... Its theater,, a script... The best thing to do is to not get caught up in the whipsaw,, the extreme ups and downs because most of it is fake... Its a psychological operation to keep the people under control while the system collapses around them,, so they do not become aware that a power vacuum opens when it does...

Trump is here to move us from one system to another,, he is an actor playing a part,, cast for a role as President,,, put into office by a body of high level military officials carrying out an operation to transfer power from a Central Banking Cartel out of the City Of London and back to the frameworks of the constitution... A much more simple,, much smaller governmental system...

Her in the US we will weather this storm,, this transition much better than many other countries... We will notice it but life will go on much the same as it already does... In some places you will see WAR break out,, revolution,, civil WAR... Here maybe some violence,, some insurrection after the realization comes that this system is over already...

Why do you think there have been so many resignations in Congress and the Senate? Because they know everything is about to change and they will be exposed...

The States have no idea what is going to happen because they believe the system is too big to fail... When the FIAT system goes down so does our entire corporate government... Gold/Silver backed system will not facilitate a huge government entity under a corporate charter...

Since the sexual metaphor bothers you, I'll adjust. It goes like this: when Putin says "frog," Trump says "how high?" And once again, I don't hate Trump. Hate takes energy, and I'm not into wasting energy. I simply despise Trump for the very real reason that he is a despicable POS. Biden, even Hilary couldn't come close, not within a country mile. And Biden and Hilary aren't fascists, and that counts for a lot among Americans who value our Constitution and system of laws.

The sexual metaphor doesn’t bother me. It’s only words. It’s simply bizarre but then again you are a sexual deviant and the perverse talk is probably stimulating for you. No wonder you obsess over the social political issues. Also, you spend a lot of time typing out TLDR’s about Trump that nobody reads because people have stopped taking you seriously. You sure do waste a lot of time talking about him.

Also, I agree Biden and Hilary aren’t fascists, but neither is Trump. None of our presidents have been fascists. Your sensational rhetoric is pretty detached from how people and things really are.



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Says you. Hah!

Somali Salmo,


Nice comeback. You sure got me there. Didn’t you…




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