#149364 - 04/15/02 04:39 PM
Weighing C&R Fish?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 09/20/01
Posts: 380
Loc: Seattle
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I got a big native steelhead last week and was thinking it would have have been nice to get an actual weight on it. I thought for sure I'd broken the 20lbs barrier based on pictures I've seen of other fish that purported to be over 20lbs. I took its measurements, 36.5x20 and it only came out to 18.83lbs. Anyway way this got me thinking of how I could get an actual weight without hurting the fish. I remember I'd seen pictures of cradle nets and this looked like a kind of promising way to do it. You could just slip it under the fish, attach the scale to the net, give a quick lift and get a weight (subtracting out the net). The fish would be supported for its full length and couldn't thrash around for the short time it was out of the water. What do you think? Here is a link showing a cradle net. cradle net
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#149366 - 04/15/02 08:32 PM
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Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 304
Loc: union wa
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most people use boca-grips for weighing records that will be released. i use a tail rope. the grips seem like they would hurt the fishes mouth. chatillon spring scales and boca grips are some of the few handheld scales that can easily be certified.
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#149367 - 04/15/02 09:38 PM
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Registered: 12/14/01
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Loc: The Tailout
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I keep records of how much hatchery fish weigh as well as length/girth. You can get a good approximation of natives with a simple length. A 36 inch steelhead of average girth goes ~ 14 pounds. 36.5, maybe 15. A girthy native will go 15 to 30% heavier than that. I'd guess your fish at about 17 pounds (a beauty). I brought home a hatchery buck with nice shoulders last winter that was 36.5 inches. It weighed 16.5 pounds.
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#149368 - 04/15/02 09:45 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
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it only came out to 18.83lbs ONLY 19 pounds?  Geez, BossMan, that's a heck of a fish to be disappointed in. If you wanna call it 20. I won't tell........ 
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#149369 - 04/16/02 01:26 AM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 11/04/99
Posts: 983
Loc: Everett, Wa
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Just tape em...
Do not put a fish through unnecassary stress and trauma just so you can be sure it was 20.
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#149370 - 04/16/02 11:46 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 562
Loc: austin, Minnesota, USA
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FYI. DO NOT USE BOGA GRIPS ON SALMONIDS.
These things are great for salt water fish with heavy jaw structures, but they trash the jaws on salmon and steelhead.
Lot's of guys use catch and release cradles for muskies in the Midwest. Very minimal handling to the fish, and no need to bust their backs by ripping them out of the water by their tails or under the gill rakers. They may be worth a try in a drift boat, but not practical at all for hike in fishing.
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#149371 - 04/16/02 01:36 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 797
Loc: Post Falls, ID
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I measure the length and for the first 24 inches, it's 4 pounds, for every inch after that, add 1 pound. It's pretty damn accurate.
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#149372 - 04/16/02 07:22 PM
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Loc: Eastside,Wa
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#149373 - 04/16/02 08:32 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 304
Loc: union wa
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after much thought, i have decided that the best thing is to lie about the weight. add 4 inches and several pounds.
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#149375 - 04/17/02 01:23 AM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/07/99
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Does the really "I just need to know" worth the higher mortality potential to the fish? If it's big do a quick estimate and let it swim away strong with minimal impact. Is someone's ego more important than the fish's survival?
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#149377 - 04/17/02 11:58 AM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 03/07/99
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BK, In my opinion a C&R net is cool, unless the practice is to lift the fish out of the water with net and man handle the fish to weigh it. Actually it would be great to see more anglers use a C&R net it better serves a dual purpose- allows an angler to net hatchery fish as well as lessen the impact on wild fish, but just like any tool, it's the operator who uses it correctly.
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#149378 - 04/17/02 01:17 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 02/22/01
Posts: 652
Loc: Tacoma, Wa, USA
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Where do you guys find the C+R nets I need to replace the bag on mine and can't find the C+R style.
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