#149644 - 04/19/02 09:44 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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2 boats...six guys so far. Would be nice if others care to join in.
Team: Loomis Ho's and Company Rapid Robert, his boat, Timberman and I.
Team: Trix Wiser?, his boat, Craven Moorehead and Gloabou.
Give us a post. More details forthcoming.
FJ...out.
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#149646 - 04/19/02 11:32 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/18/01
Posts: 846
Loc: Milwaukie, OR
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I'll be in Suckramento, California that morning on my way to Los Angeles. Catch one for the Davester.
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#149647 - 04/19/02 12:49 PM
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BUCK NASTY!!
Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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I'll be working as usual!!! We need to have a mid week flotilla...  I really want to get out and join you guys and get the opportunity to meet some of you.. Keith 
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#149648 - 04/19/02 01:24 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/27/00
Posts: 2447
Loc: Stumpy Acres
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Keith- It is a mid week floatilla..It's next thursday. I know the winner already also The Loomis Ho's and company!!!!
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#149650 - 04/19/02 02:39 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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AuntyM I feel your pain I am also taking classes. If I did not have to go to school or work, I would have a heck of allot more time to fish. 
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#149651 - 04/19/02 02:41 PM
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The Original Boat Ho
Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
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AuntyM you always have class! Did you know that Ucluelet is an Indian word for "Barfing in the Ocean". Take your dramamine!
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#149653 - 04/19/02 02:47 PM
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Fry
Registered: 03/21/99
Posts: 24
Loc: Olympia, WA 98516
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FJ i would like to go but just started my own constuction compeny.and warden would get a littel mad .plus i lost my fishing partner to a women
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#149654 - 04/19/02 03:04 PM
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Anonymous
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FJ, Stew and I will likely show up in my sled, with a couple of supermodels to hold 2 of our other rods, so we have 4 lures out there - 2 Mags and 2 rolling baits. See ya up there on Thur. the 25th. 
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#149655 - 04/19/02 03:23 PM
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Parr
Registered: 05/03/00
Posts: 71
Loc: Pendleton, Oregon. USA
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Good man RT. More folks from oregon, this can only be a good thing!!! FJ, anythime you want to call a truce, I will be there for ya.  Cya on the river  Gotta go sharpen the fillet knife. gloabou out!!!!
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#149656 - 04/19/02 05:45 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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Call a truce Glo? My smack usually gets done pending the final results...I hate to jinks myself beforehand with all that BIG WHISKEY talk! :p Right on RT... Team: RT, Stew and deja vu. RT, his boat, Stew and the blow up models. FJ...out.
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#149657 - 04/19/02 10:11 PM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Hmmmm.....Gee, I think I have to go to work that day. Wait, I don't start until May 1st.  Got a boat, got gas money, got kitchen pass. Wiggle warts? Two seats open. Andy p.s. Is this an open water fishery like the Columbia near St. Helens, or is this a sled and drift boat only show where prop boats need not apply? Info please.
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#149658 - 04/19/02 10:25 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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Cool DF. I'm sure some of the other fellas going can clue you in on the prop thing. Come on guys...two seats with Dogfish sounds like a killer day! Team: Where's my float? Dogfish, his boat and two yet to be named. That's four boats and sounding like some kick arse fun! FJ...out. Ken...say it ain't so...the fishing partner in question said she would not effect his fishing. 
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#149659 - 04/20/02 03:20 AM
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Smolt
Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 82
Loc: Seaview WA & Gresham OR
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Dog fish, Sleds and pumps a must. If you still sahow up. use fresh octopus(killer bait) swampy bucktails on siwash hooks, size 4/0 wedding ring spinners or green gitzits fished on the bottom. Fish the south side of the buoy line and never go to the racetrack. I never tire of helping you wassies out.
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#149660 - 04/20/02 03:42 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/27/00
Posts: 2447
Loc: Stumpy Acres
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so company (aka FJ).. You going to bring one of your lamisnaps since your a lamisnap fan and not LOOMIS fan?
RR if he brings a lamisnap we better make sure we have a LOOMIS for him when he breaks his lamisnap :p
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#149662 - 04/20/02 03:49 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/27/00
Posts: 2447
Loc: Stumpy Acres
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You just might if you fish a good rod like a LOOMIS for once  :p
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#149663 - 04/20/02 03:53 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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Come on TM...your "Big Leaguing" me now! FJ...out. for nite...
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#149664 - 04/20/02 02:21 PM
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Parr
Registered: 05/03/00
Posts: 71
Loc: Pendleton, Oregon. USA
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Got the zebco all hooked up and new line put on my push button reel. You boys in trouble now!!! What kind of knot should i use to attach the flying lure to my main line??? Boy, I am going to put a hurting to some springers. Read'em and weep boys!!!  Gloabou out!!!! :p
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#149665 - 04/21/02 04:25 AM
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Parr
Registered: 06/27/00
Posts: 48
Loc: Vancouver, Wa,USA
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Bait boy, Capin' Dan and maybe Mr fisherman will be attending the show. I look forward to seeing what kind of lure RT will bring to this flotilla(Oh yeah he's got blow up dolls). Hopefully the fish keep on pouring through and show up in the numbers that we are waiting with "baited" breath for.
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#149666 - 04/21/02 04:02 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 454
Loc: TACOMA,WA
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With big hitters like Wiser and Gloa-boa in the boat, I probably won't even NEED to hook anything for our boat to win....I may just provide net support unless we want a late inning insurance fish...
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#149667 - 04/22/02 01:03 AM
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Parr
Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 65
Loc: Olympia, WA
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Sounds like a great time guys. If I didn't have a previous committment I'd take Dogfish up on his offer in a heartbeat. It's time to get those V's off that boat! Ron
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#149668 - 04/22/02 05:55 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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Right on Rick...glad Capin'Dan, Mr fisherman and you can make it!
5 boats so far.
Team: Bad Halibut bait boy, someone's boat, Capin' Dan and Mr Fisherman.
Dogfish...are you still going to attempt it?
FJ...out.
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#149669 - 04/23/02 01:30 AM
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Parr
Registered: 06/27/00
Posts: 48
Loc: Vancouver, Wa,USA
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Were short one of our official team Bad Halibut members but I think we'll stick with that name. we will be in my boat a grey on grey 19'Alumaweld
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#149670 - 04/24/02 03:07 AM
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Anonymous
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Scratch the RT&Stew team....sorry something came up so we will not be attending.
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#149671 - 04/24/02 04:27 AM
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Anonymous
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Nothing personal by our team. We are fishing the Willamette instead. Primarily, I want to wait and see what tone flotillas take on from here on out; after the F4 controversy Gizmo made public. Have a good one guys. Hope you catch lots of them - more for fun than for a state or crowded big water luck contest. ..... In case anyone that's going isn't familiar with this springer fishery, I'll give you some tips (for whatever they're worth). Get there early! .. You've likely heard that flatline trolling Mag Warts in flame red or flo orange is the go-to method. That's true. It is particularly effective early. I also like using the chrome/chartreuse colors, with a flame red lure tape 'arrow tail' added. I also like to do something unique with the Mag Warts - use a smaller sardine filet and thread wrap it in front of the belly eyescrew with several winds around the 'neck' between the bill and body; filets aren't just for Kwikfish anymore  . Also trolled rolling prawns (orange colored ones too; not just the pink ones - and try injecting some good salmon egg juice), or K-13/14 Kwikfish are good early also. It's worth having one of your partners try a battery lighted Kwikfish or plug for the first 30 minutes or so - I've seen them hit when it's still fairly dark out. Vary your trolling speeds if room permits. After the fish get more weary as the day progresses they are often more prone to hitting good change ups, such as the trolled rolling prawns or plugcut herring (which aren't used as often up there). I use a 30" lead dropper with 55" leader for trolling bait near bottom; and use a Magnum Hot N Tot diver with 50" leader for trolling them up off bottom in the deeper areas (some springers will swim around a little further off bottom than others). Using a size 3 or 4 spinner blade or small Spin N Glo on the leader right above the prawn is good. If the water is really clear, put a hookless size 4 rainbow colorado spinner blade at mid-leader instead. Also try switching to the regular size Wiggle Wart with a rubber centered barrell lead weight 45" up the leader for the deeper spots, or try a good trolling spinner; and try the metalic colors instead of the red/orange ones from earlier - unless they are still producing of course. In bright sun on clear water I have done really well with a custom flame red arrow tape tailed copper Wart. Shrimp scent for the lures is good there. If the fish in the inner deep areas go off the bite, fish for new ones coming in along the mix line at the bouy fishing deadline. Sometimes the lesser fished shallow spot further up along that line will produce some fish that are swimming away from traffic - especially if you use an electric trolling motor. And try areas with less boat traffic, if at all possible, such as at the far west end of the bouy marked fishing area. If the bite seemingly quits everywhere, I suggest to try trolling back and forth along the far west outer deadline for both new Wind fish and upriver fish that wander in and out of the fresher water there before heading on up the Columbia. ~ For attire, I strongly suggest wearing Kevlar vests and helmuts. Also put your boat bumpers out and hang thick coats on the bow and big motor.  Yeeehaaaw These tips work well for Drano Lake also.
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#149672 - 04/24/02 10:03 AM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Should I bring the social shotgun?
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#149673 - 04/24/02 11:14 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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DF, you can leave the social shotgun home now that RT and Stew are not coming! Stew, you should have deleted your post "something came up" before your partner made you look like an idiot by telling us that you guys chose a hot spot over fishing with us! I see how it is now! RT your first paragraph is a load of crap! For your information this group is going to fish for the pure enjoyment of it! You sure have had a way with turning all this competition...smack crap around on everyone else! Who's soul were you soothing with those tips...yours or ours. FJ...out.
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#149674 - 04/24/02 04:13 PM
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Anonymous
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No FJ you don't see how it is! You should email me before you accuse me of wrong doing.Just trying to avoid controversy is all. Both (Giz and RT) participants are friends and I'm sorry to see them at each other over something that supposed to be fun.Let's all chill out a little and get back to enjoying each others company.
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#149675 - 04/24/02 04:20 PM
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Anonymous
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FJ, sorry you took it personally; it was nothing at all about who is coming to the Wind mini-flotilla. And it was not Stew who decided to wait out flotilla controversies for awhile, it was me. He is not an idiot, and perhaps you owe him an appology? As for me, you may have missed what caused this? It was a flotilla damaging thread by Gizmo (in which he deleted some of his posts after it didn't go his way - then it all got deleted); and other off board things you aren't privy too as well. You and the other guys are fun to socialize with. It's the other ensuing crap that I've tired of. I helped create the competitive atmosphere with fun intended trash talk. I am now trying to help tone it down, because it's gone too far in many people's opinions. btw, my tips for Wind/Drano were put up for the same reason I have always put them up - to help less experienced fishers learn!
Hope you all well out there Thursday.
RT
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#149676 - 04/24/02 04:34 PM
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The Original Boat Ho
Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
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RT; As always I appreciate your tips. (and your smack, too :p ) I sincerly enjoyed F4 and meeting those I did.
The tide flows in, the tide flows out, much like the crap here and there. I hope for a return to civility once again.
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#149677 - 04/24/02 04:47 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/09/99
Posts: 454
Loc: TACOMA,WA
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Too much drama..... . sounds like a soap opera.....is RT really pregnant with Gizmo's unborn springer? . Stay tuned...
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#149679 - 04/24/02 08:11 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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Stew, for the record...I did not call you an idiot and if that's how you took it then for that I apologize. I merely stated that your partner RT made you out to look like one. RT should have left the explanation for not showing where you left it on your post. In my mind for that HE owes you an apology also!
RT, during all of your trash talking and that of others before the "self pre-formatted" Flotilla smack threads it looked like a train wreck in the making. For that reason I declined to involve myself with it. To be quite honest with you I stopped reading your thread just after it stopped pertaining to me...think it rude but hey I come here for the fishing and the camaraderie...not to hear a bunch of folks trying to tear each other down. Bragging rights is one thing when all is said and done...but turning a pre planned fun event into some kind of three ringed circus in my eye kind of puts a taint on the whole reason for coordinating such an event. F4 was a great event...I got a chance to meet a whole lot of nice folks...you and Stew included! Tommorrow I will meet a few more of the guys and am looking forward to it. I have solace in knowing that the fellas in the 4 boats that are going will come away from this knowing a few more of the guys that share the same passion for fishing as they do. Sure we all know that one of us will earn bragging rights for they day...yet we will all accept it as part of the fun.
RT,Stew we have had some great dialog over the last few months and I would like to maintain it as such. My posts where not meant to inflame you...I just felt like I was calling a spade a spade...which seems to be the status quo.
Oh...did I say that it's to bad you two can't make it? :p
See you both on the next one...no hard feelings!
FJ...out.
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#149680 - 04/24/02 10:02 PM
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Smolt
Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 82
Loc: Seaview WA & Gresham OR
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Wiser <------- staying out of this [Bleeeeep!]. Just want to fish and meet a few others who enjoy the same thing. If it was just about catching fish I wouldn't make long range plans at all. Unless the weather craps out and/or all chances of catching a fish diasappears, I'll follow up on my declaration to participate. Hope to remain friends with all I've met and gain new friends along the way.
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#149681 - 04/24/02 10:41 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 09/25/01
Posts: 744
Loc: Tacoma
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For those that catch this...RR is going to BBQ some german sausages for all. He would like everyone to try to bring something to go along with it. Or if you have something to throw on the grill that's OK to! Stew, are you going to stay mad at me? FJ...out.
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#149682 - 04/24/02 10:43 PM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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I'm just going to fish so I can tear one of those damned "V's" off of my boat. (And to have some good food in good company, nothing more, nothing less.)
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#149683 - 04/24/02 10:58 PM
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Anonymous
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Never was mad in the first place FJ.
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#149685 - 04/25/02 01:33 AM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 09/18/99
Posts: 167
Loc: Ridgefield, WA
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For the record, I did not delete any threads last night or this morning. In fact, I was unaware I could even do this.
Wish you all well at the event. Got some unfortunate news about a good friend and fishing partner. So I will be spending time with him and hopes he beats a life threatening battle with luekemia.
I apologize to any and all who had to endure what has been an unfortunate series of posts.
Giz..
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#149686 - 04/25/02 01:41 AM
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Anonymous
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Giz no aplogy needed...hope everything turns out allright for your friend.
Everyone please "fish your lives as best you can"
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