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#155992 - 07/26/02 11:49 AM Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
It took just one hour to get our six sockeye,and made it to work fifteen minutes early.Ya gotta love it.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

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#155993 - 07/26/02 12:36 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Downriggin Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 1189
Loc: Marine Area 13
SZ,

How were the launches?

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#155994 - 07/26/02 12:59 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
JacobF Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 797
Loc: Post Falls, ID
When I crossed I-90 on my way to work today (I'll be fishing this evening), I was suprised at how few boats were out there. I would guess less than 50 that I could see.

What size are the fish? Are they just 3 - 5 pounders as reported going through the locks? Or are there some decent ones in the 5 - 8 pound range?

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#155995 - 07/26/02 02:03 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
SZ, what area of the lake did you fish? I am heading out there this afternoon.
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#155996 - 07/26/02 02:06 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
STRIKE ZONE Offline
GOOD LUCK

Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
First of all I launched Tuesday night cause I have moorage so I didn't see any lines.Second the fish are runnin 5-7 pounds with the 8-11 pounders in the mix.These fish have some color but are far from being considered a boot.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

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#155997 - 07/26/02 02:22 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
ET Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 387
Loc: Tacoma
Took us a bit longer to limit. We started fishing at O dark-thirty and didn't have much luck until 7am. Caught six fish between 7:15 and 8:15 with the largest about 8-9 lbs. 70'+ was the magic depth. Fished shallower without success. We launched at Coulon Park Thursday night and slept in the boat. Take out wasn't that bad... Fished the south end. Red hooks with 00 flasher seemed to work best.

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#155998 - 07/26/02 02:49 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
GutZ Offline
The Original Boat Ho

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
We were Sockeye Resistant this morning. I crackered the first one off about
5AM. That will teach me to Horse Sockeye. Not really, I was fishing 12#
Ande. Probably not a good idea off the downrigger, even with light releases.
We got a sockeye sized Cutthroat, another cuttie and with all but one line
up prepare to head for the barn, we got a Sockeye!

We fished around Webster Point (just North of 520) to start and then headed
south. We didn't see many fish on, but heard it was good south (really)
early.
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#155999 - 07/26/02 02:58 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Predator Dawg Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/03/00
Posts: 550
Loc: land of sun
4 guys, 8 fish, ~ 2 hours total. Three went about 10 lbs, the other five were around 5-6 lbs. Also caught 2 little sockeye jacks that went about 10-12 inches. Cool coloring on them.

I'm curious as to how the boats by Champagne Point just outside of Juanita Bay did???

We caught all but one of ours between the the bridges, fyi.

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#156000 - 07/26/02 03:55 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
JacobF Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 797
Loc: Post Falls, ID
Is the money hole producing this year? It was pretty good in 2000.

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#156001 - 07/26/02 04:04 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Asteiger Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 02/13/02
Posts: 233
Loc: Los Angeles
What's working to get them out there and what depths did you get them at?

Skeets

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#156002 - 07/26/02 04:45 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
4Salt Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
JacobF - It must be great this year I tell ya, my money's goin' right down it! laugh

Quote:
70'+ was the magic depth
Quote:
Fished the south end. Red hooks with 00 flasher seemed to work best.
Skeets, ask and ye shall receive... wink
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#156003 - 07/27/02 12:55 AM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fish4Fun Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 09/13/00
Posts: 172
Loc: Renton
4 guys in the boat 8 fish landed 6 lost. Total time was 1 hour and 10 minutes. All of the fish were taken at 55 to 57 feet. 4 on the downriggers and 4 with 8oz. wieght.
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#156004 - 07/27/02 07:41 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
JacobF Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 797
Loc: Post Falls, ID
Got 2 nice sockeye this morning, a 7# and 8#. Both of them actually put up fights making nice small runs and everything. Dad's just rolled up in the line and came to the boat smile

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#156005 - 07/27/02 07:57 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
F F F Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/03/01
Posts: 467
Loc: Kent
Here's something fresh to try.

Forget the double red gami setup. I refuse to bow down and only fish the typical setup so I tried a single barbless 1/0 gami and threaded a 2" pink curly tail grub up the shaft and fished it behind a small 4" les davis flasher with a 20# 20" leader at 70ft and 20ft from the DR ball. Believe it or not we got 13 to the boat, without a net(forgot it at home). They were so cooperative, they even held still for pictures before going on their way. I also added a snubber above the flasher. I did not lose one fish. Of the 8 fish that popped me off I landed all 8. My friend hooked and lost 15 or more on a modified double hook setup. So he trimmed of the bottom hook and pinched the barb and within 45 minutes he had 5 to the boat. I think the one small hook really made a big difference by not tearing up their mouths. Try it out, those grubs kick azz. But this is my first year out for sockeye, so what do i know.
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#156006 - 07/29/02 11:04 AM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
jeff'e'd Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 948
Loc: Snohomish, WA USA
Well, maybe I should have tried a smaller hook. I got (4) to the boat off of a U20 flatfish and the hooks pulled out just as my son was getting ready to net him. We finally got one landed and the hooks pulled out just as we were lifting the net in the boat. I was surprised the trebble barbed hooks didn't get a better stick. One fish is sure better than none when its sockeye meat! The other set-up with (2) red 3/0 hooks got one or two strikes and the fish didn't stay on.

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#156007 - 07/29/02 12:13 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
drift boat Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 09/28/00
Posts: 280
Loc: Renton WA
I took out at least two trips a day and one day it was three. No down riggers just 8 oz weights along with 60 to 65 pulls of line. Last night was the night for the big ones. five fish to the boat that were in the eight pound range. With limits each day it was a blast. Now to clean up the sled and where did everyone go to.. frown
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#156008 - 07/29/02 03:30 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
charr Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 778
Loc: Yuppie Ville
Fished Friday morning for 3 hours, Saturday morning for 3 hours, Saturday evening for 2 hours, and Sunday morning for 1 1/2 hours.
Total count for the weekend was 46 fish. Too bad fishing for Kings isn't this easy. I ran a 2/0 red Gami on 14" of 15# Ande with my 00 flasher, 12# Ande main line with a 9'-6" Lamiglass Med Steelhead rod.I can't believe the disrespect people have for the fighting ability of these fish.I had a blast playing them.Loved the look I was getting from the meat Gomers when I'd turn a fish loose. Oh, did I mention that we always sprayed our gear down with WD40. laugh

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#156009 - 07/29/02 03:49 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
I switched from red Gammi's to flourescent pink Gammi's and I could not even get two lines set in the water before I had a fish on. The pink Gammi's kick butt!
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#156010 - 07/29/02 03:56 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
CraigO Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/30/02
Posts: 1395
Loc: Lake Stevens
The two of us got our limits in couple hrs Sunday morning. 80 ft deep seemed to be the ticket. There is a rumor they may extend the season. Can anyone verify?
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#156011 - 07/29/02 04:16 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
There was "talk" at the launches this weekend. Also, there was a little article in the Everett Herald about an extension.
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#156012 - 07/29/02 04:18 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
4Salt Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
Craig Harr,

I can't imagine why the meat gomers would've given you dirty looks. All they'd have to do is wait a minute or two then follow behind you and scoop up the dead ones with a net. Playing sockeye out, then releasing them in 70+ degree lake water is kinda tough on them. That's why it IS a meat fishery. wink
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#156013 - 07/29/02 05:48 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
jeff'e'd Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 948
Loc: Snohomish, WA USA
that was cold 4-Salt, but I got a good laugh!!! Did you make it out on the lake?

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#156014 - 07/29/02 06:12 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
4Salt Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
Not this year Jeff. I'll be up in B.C. in a week or two fishing for sockeyes and kings in the Fraser river, then it's off to Sekiu... Ahh life is good. smile
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#156015 - 07/30/02 02:44 AM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
F F F Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/03/01
Posts: 467
Loc: Kent
Yes, these sockeye act like mackinaw after a fight. Even going barbless and hooked lightly, It takes them a while to get the trama out of their systems. We had 3 floaters out of 9 we released but we turned around and grabbed them and revived them for a minute or so and they would take off like rockets with a little tickle on their tail. When one of the floaters came up a guy next to us saw it as we were backing up to revive it and he raced us to it with net in hand and argued with me that it wasn't mine. We won the race to the fish and i grabbed the tail and he was gone. The guy, all angry, asked me why i let it go and i said CUZ I DON"T WANT TO GO HOME AFTER 20 MINUTES. A limit is boring fishing if it happens faster than you can open your first drink or munch your first chip. It's fishing, not harvesting....isn't it? Anyhow, it kicked but.
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#156016 - 07/30/02 12:28 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
charr Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 778
Loc: Yuppie Ville
4salt, Just my 2 cents worth, I always make sure and handle my fish that I plan on releasing carefuly. I spend as much time as needed to make sure that the fish is stuggling hard to get out of my hands while reviving them. I did have 2 that bellyed up on me and I returned to pluck them out of the water to retain. Just because they are plentiful, I don't need to eat that much fish.

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#156017 - 07/30/02 01:31 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
4Salt Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
Craig,

I wasn't trying to imply that you mishandled your fish. When salmon fight in very warm water (like lake WA) it takes a very heavy toll on them, and the survival rate is usually pretty low regardless of how carefully they are handled. That's why it's best to retain your limit and then stop fishing so that the sport quota is met with the least amount of incidental mortality. In you first post, it was the part about "meat gomers" that prompted me to respond at all. In this case, they are probably doing less damage.

FFF,

Yeah, I hate going home after 20 minutes too. I usually practice C&R, mostly because I don't need a lot of fish for the freezer. In certain instances though (like this) it's just too hard on the fish. Even if you did get them to revive, there's no guarantee that they didn't die a few minutes later, just sank to the bottom, and no one knew any different.
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#156018 - 07/30/02 01:57 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fishslayer75 Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/20/01
Posts: 391
Loc: Auburn
Those have got to be some of the weakest fish I have ever caught. I've had better luck releasing little trout caught on bait after taking the hook deep. I would say that I had apx 3 fish that I held at the side of the boat that took of like a rocket and then would belly up 30 yds behind the boat. After making a sharp turn w/ 3-4 lines in the water to go back and get them only one took off as I grabbed for the net. We then boated every thing we hooked. Even went as far as to go to a single barbless hook. No difference.
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#156019 - 07/30/02 02:35 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Predator Dawg Offline
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Registered: 10/03/00
Posts: 550
Loc: land of sun
Record catch during 3-day fishery means
no further sockeye seasons on Lake Washington

OLYMPIA – An unprecedented catch of 36,000 sockeye salmon during the July 26-28 recreational fishery on Lake Washington means there are not enough fish left to support additional sport fishing for sockeye this season, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) announced today.

Tim Flint, WDFW State Salmon Manager, said approximately 10,000 anglers per day participated in the fishery, the first since 2000.

"It was great to be able to provide anglers with this unexpected opportunity to fish for sockeye this year," he said. "Not only were there huge crowds of fishers throughout the three-day fishery, but they were also very successful."

The sockeye run is continuing to enter the Lake Washington system through the Ballard Locks. Nearly 21,000 sockeye passed into the system July 26-28, giving fisheries managers further proof that this year's return is stronger and later than previously thought.

The latest estimate is that approximately 414,000 sockeye will pass through the locks, including fish entering the Lake Washington system in August and September.

Despite the end of sockeye salmon fishing in Lake Washington, there are several freshwater salmon-fishing opportunities coming soon to the region. Lake Sammamish opens for chinook and coho fishing Aug. 16, and the north end of Lake Washington opens for coho fishing Sept. 16. Sockeye must be released in both of these fisheries.

Treaty Indian fishers have taken an additional 13,000 sockeye to date, with additional fisheries scheduled.

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#156020 - 07/30/02 05:11 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
F F F Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/03/01
Posts: 467
Loc: Kent
Well that sucks!! That math sure doesn't make any sense to me. 36000 taken with an estimate of 414,000, i don't see the problem in keeping it open. What are they worried about?
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#156021 - 07/30/02 06:15 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
spawnout Offline
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Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 842
Loc: Satsop
Here's the deal, 3F. The escapement goal is 350,000, we got 36,000 and the Muckleshoot tribe got 13,000 so far and are owed another 23,000 more, as we have to split 50/50 with them. 72k from 414k leaves 342k, a little shy of escapement, so the tribe may come out on the short end this time. Thank the Fish Gods and hot pink Gami's that we got our share for once laugh
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#156022 - 07/30/02 07:21 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
4Salt Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
FFF,

Let's examine the figures for just a second.

36,000 = Sport caught sockeye in the 3 day season. (Let's pretend that this figure is somewhat accurate rolleyes )

36,000 = Tribal share (remember the 50/50 split?)

Total run size = 414,00 fish. (best guess estimate)

36,000 + 36,000 = 72,000.

414,000 - 72,000 = 342,000.

Escapement goal for the run = 350,000

It would appear that we're going to fall about 8,000 short because of the season we already had. (Not to mention mortality from C&R wink )

Please explain how the state would justify extending the season?

Edit: My apologies for posting the same info. I was pulled away and didn't hit the post message button. smile
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#156023 - 07/30/02 07:57 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
F F F Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/03/01
Posts: 467
Loc: Kent
Well my vast knoledge of escapement goals failed me at the time i read that. Sorry. I didn't know they needed that many to make the cut. I see now. Still, it needs to be reopened laugh But probably better that it isn't. What i want to know is when the cedar is going to open up for C&R. Yeah i'm dreamin but it would be nice. Year before it closed my friend landed a 9lb cutthroat. It was almost as long as his leg. And that was when the Cedar was considered to be in a downfall for all species(any info i am not aware of here?). Anyways, thanks for the info.

And not to be a smart asz or nothing but isn't a fish that returns to the system dead or alive better than a fish that is never returned? Some rivers don't even let you take your catch unless you filet it on the bank and toss the carcass back in the river.
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#156024 - 08/02/02 12:22 AM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Here's my story,

Saturday we only had a few hours to fish, but I took my 3 and 6 year old boys out, along with grampa Dave. Everybody got fish! My oldest boy got his first salmon 2 years ago during the same fishery, and now my youngest did the same.

We motored on in to the boat ramp and as we landed the WDFW officer approached. I said "Howdy! Enjoying the boat show?" His response was a terse, "You took your boys out fishing in a madhouse like this?!?!?" Then he smiled, stuck out his hand and said, "Great job, this fishery is just perfect for taking the kids out!" After checking the boy's catch records he ran back up to his truck to get a few trading cards. He came back with a sad look. He said, "Guys, I'm out of cards, but maybe these will do," as he handed my sons real bear claws from a road killed bear he had found. The boys were ecstatic! They got to meet a policeman with a gun, catch fish, and get some real bear claws all in the same day.

Hope your time was just as enjoyable.

Andy
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#156025 - 08/02/02 11:36 PM Re: Limits of Sockeye by 6:20 a.m.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruce(Coho@TheRefuge) Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 232
Loc: Bothell, WA, USA
Who was netting the fish in the saltwater?

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