#227265 - 01/28/04 08:16 AM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
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#227266 - 01/29/04 01:23 AM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Spawner
Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 937
Loc: Everwet
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OK, with all of this being said, is there or isn't there going to be a sportsman season on the big lake for sockeye this year? I did'nt take the time to read all of the posts regarding this issue, but , being the narrow minded sort that I am, (shame on me!), I would really like to know if I can fish for these critters this year. Before everyone passes judgement on me as just another meat fisherman, please understand that I get few chances to fish for salmon or steelhead over the course of the traditional seasons, so any opportunity I get to fish for any salomonid, when there is the potential for a sucessful outing, I jump at the chance.Last go 'round, due to ineptitude on my part, we launched the boat without the benefit of having anyone on board or in control,causing an unplannned, and therfore unprepared fisher to have to go wading after a boat that got away. Before you say STUPID!, take into consider that ,yes, what happened WAS stupid, and I am fully prepared to accept that label. My fishing buddy was sure to remind me all the way home about how the wind was up and the boat would have eventually made it back to the beach on it's own. Wading out to beyond my chest to retreive the boat was not part of the plan for the day. So I live and learn. Anyways, I would sure like another chance at those tasty morsels, so back to the original question, WILL THERE BE A SPORT SOCKEYE SEASON ON THE BIG LAKE THIS YEAR???
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#227268 - 02/02/04 01:39 AM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Returning Adult
Registered: 09/01/01
Posts: 354
Loc: Shoreline, Wa.
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Here is my State Rep's reply. Thank you for your email. I appreciate you taking the time to contact me. I agree with you and support funding for Lake Washington Sockeye Sport Fishery, as included in the governor's budget. This funding will provide monitoring and sampling to ensure that fish listed under the Endangered Species Act are adequately protected. Preliminary forecasts indicate a Lake Washington Sockeye salmon return of roughly 600,000 fish. In the event that sufficient sockeye return to Lake Washington, this additional funding will allow the Department of Fish and Wildlife to open this selective fishery and create more fishing opportunities in our community. Please feel free to contact me with any additional comments or concerns. I value the input I receive and hope that you will continue to share your thoughts with me. Best Regards, Ruth 
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#227269 - 02/02/04 06:37 PM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 05/21/02
Posts: 208
Loc: Woodinville, WA
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I think you've at least got Ruth's attention. Before you sent her a message, she I doubt that she had given any consideration to the Lake Washington sockeye season.
Good job.
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#227270 - 02/02/04 11:57 PM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Parr
Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 47
Loc: Kent
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If you live in the Kent area, or this guy runs for governor, vote for Rep. Geoff Simpson. Here's what he says:
Thank you for your message. As someone who has personally enjoyed the fishery you refer to and who loves salmon fishing in general, you can be assured that I will support the budget proviso. I really appreciate you taking the time to write to me about this subject and hope you will feel free to contact me anytime you have a question or comment. Thanks again. Sincerely,
Geoff
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#227271 - 02/11/04 01:10 PM
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Fry
Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 20
Loc: Olympia, WA
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Just so everyone knows. The 120k for this fishery has survived into the House and Senate budgets. Every Legislator I have spoken with is quite supportive and surprised that the Department has not been proactive with this request by contacting them first. Keep up the good work of contacting your Legislators  .
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#227272 - 02/18/04 10:19 AM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 113
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Oh please, it is just a money game. I hate having my fishing affected by politics. They'll get the money and we'll have a season, hopefully more than a 2 day stretch. I have fished opening day since a kid (got to miss a little school) and it is irritating to watch the fishing time reduced every year. Supposd to be a huge run this year and I hope the open days reflect it!
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#227273 - 02/18/04 10:52 PM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 01/23/04
Posts: 5
Loc: tacoma
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why not sponsor a take a legislator fishing program. get them in your boat, a mile from any land and then express your views to these fine, over payed under worked-educated beyond thier ability to under stand anything, individuals.
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#227274 - 03/01/04 03:57 PM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Parr
Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 55
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How many realize that there were more than enough fish last year to support a two week plus fishery? While at the Sportsman's Show I was talking to a WDFW agent who was telling me about the numbers last year. There were Sockeye running all the way into Dec. So many fish that there was no room for them to spawn in the rivers.. The last fishery that we got a 3day fishery had enough of a run to support a 12 to 14 day fishery... The WDFW agent stated that he was not sure he should talk about this however he had heard someone else mention it.... grandpa has hit the nail on the head.. We have and do pay in More than enough to support the department and enforcement. However they have to pay so much out to the general fund.. It sounds like it may be time for another dedicated fund allocation. Kinda like the warmwater fisheries fund.. 
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#227275 - 03/01/04 08:35 PM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 2834
Loc: Marysville
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Rivershrk- You may wish to review the information found on the following site. http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/sockeye/lkwashintro.htm The 2003 locks count was roughly 200,000 fish and the escapement goal is 350,000. I’m not sure how much of a fishery we should have a run that was 150,00 below the escapement goal. The 3 day fishery in 2002 was estimated to have caught 36,000 fish or 12,000 per day. To support a 2 week sport fishery with a catch rate of 12,000 fish per day the run size through the locks would have to be in the 650,000 range (350,000 escapement, 150,000 for the tribal fishery and 150,000 for the sport. As I recall the 2002 run was a couple hundred thousand short of that level. It is normal for to have some sockeye spawning well into December. Tight lines S malma
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#227276 - 03/01/04 09:48 PM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Parr
Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 55
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Smalma,
I am only restating what was told to me by somebody within the department.
Why do the counts stop at the end of July? The person I had spoken too apparently lives on one of the return rivers and has some first hand information on the subject. He stated to me that there have been allot more fish than what is being reported runs that are lasting into Dec? That is allot of uncounted months?
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#227277 - 03/01/04 11:18 PM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 2834
Loc: Marysville
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RiverShrk- As state in the site I referenced “…the Muckleshoot Tribe and WDFW will conduct formal sockeye counts from June 12th through the end of July. Counts conducted during this standardized time period are the basis of the update model.” The counts are made from those dates annual so that it is done in a consistent manner. That period covers the majority of the lake entry time with an expansion for the remainder of the fish that enter the lake prior to or after that period. In a perfect world the counts would continue from the first to last fish however that would require additional cost with little gain in the accuracy of the runsize estimate.
I think that your source of information maybe confusing the difference between run entry timing and spawning timing. The fish entry the lake from late May/early June into August however the spawning is later with a few fish beginning entering the Cedar for spawning in late August on through much of December. Peak spawning activity would typically be in October. Those fish entering the Cedar for spawning would have been counted past the locks weeks to months earlier.
Again I encourage you and others to take the time to educate yourselves so that you can determine what makes sense and what doesn’t. In this electronic era access to information is easy and abundant – though not always correct. Tight lines S malma
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#227282 - 03/03/04 10:52 AM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Spawner
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 644
Loc: Bothell, Wa
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Thanks Grandpa and CM, I had a feeling that was the case. No conspiracy theory here  , was just wondering. My daughters are looking forward to this season, it's a great opportunity to get the entire family out on the water, during the nice warm and sunny weather. Kev
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#227284 - 03/04/04 05:52 PM
Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 02/25/04
Posts: 5
Loc: Kirkland
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Yo Gang!
A couple of things that I learned at the Pre-season Forecast Meeting in Olympia on Monday...
1 - The $120K that have been tossed about for monitoring would be enough to cover a 30 day season if it came to that...!
2 - They are only expecting about 400 wild chinook to come back to the Cedar this year. That is a threatened run and DFW has to manage all fisheries - including sockeye in the lake - to limit impact on those fish.
3 - Based upon #2, DFW would prefer to run the season as early as possible - before chinook would be expected in the lake - they said it might start as early as July 1st
4 - The City of Renton has asked that they NOT allow fishing on July 4th because of planned fireworks and even more traffic at Coulon Park - don't know if they mean the whole weekend or not.
Get those red hooks now!
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