#228973 - 01/24/04 10:41 AM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 3188
Loc: U.S. Army
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Originally posted by Maguana: Your fishing permit only allows you to fish the county you live in unless you are with a guide or local. That will keep the presure off the Nooch. What a bunch of radical left wing liberal BS. Yeah, let the gubment tell me where I can wet a line. Maybe everyone will then move to Hoquim just so they can fish your county. Then you can gridlock AND crowded rivers. Brilliant.
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#228974 - 01/24/04 12:05 PM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 11/29/03
Posts: 137
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I had to take exception to Havnfun's comment on the Green/Puy/Sky being closed. The only area closed is just the area above and below Reiter Ponds on the Sky. If anyone from the Green or Puy. areas is adding to the crowding on the Wynoochee,it's because of a lack of action around here.
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#228975 - 01/24/04 12:58 PM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Damn you Local !!  I don't WANT TO fish Mud Bay!! You can't make me.......... You can't make me............. I can see it now. A shady-looking character is hanging out behind Monte Square. "Psssst. Hey kid.........need a river permit?" "I don't know mister......my folks warned me about people like you." "Don't worry kid.....all the cool kids are doing it." "well, how much?" "Fifty bucks, kid........and that's a steal." And the next thing you know, that poor strung-out kid is stealing Local's and DrifterWa's TV's so he can get his Wynoochee fix. A sad, sad story, to be sure. 
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#228976 - 01/24/04 02:25 PM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 10/16/01
Posts: 199
Loc: Hoquiam/Newton
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GoHarley, If you can't spell Hoquiam you can't move here. LOL
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#228977 - 01/24/04 04:26 PM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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Anonymous
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I thot the rekwirment to liv in hoquyim wuz that you kudn't spel...
Can I liv there 2?
pleez
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#228978 - 01/25/04 12:25 PM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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Parr
Registered: 10/19/03
Posts: 59
Loc: Auburn,Wa
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If we all would think about it, These rivers all belonged to the Native americans at one time. We are all lucky that we can fish it without an Indian guide. All of these rivers could very easily be just like the Quinalt. Just be happy to be able to fish. I have a permit to fish that river. I buy one every year and it comes with a punch card too. So lets not argue on who fishes wear. I am sure that there are plenty of people that go from the Nooch area up to Neah Bay or to Buoy 10 or somewhere on the Columbia. You dont want that taken away from you, Do You?
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#228979 - 01/25/04 03:42 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 01/26/02
Posts: 301
Loc: everett,wa
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If we make it so you can only fish waters in your county,then we will plant 99.9% of the hatchery fish in Sno/King/Pierce rivers.Only fair thats where 99.9% of the tax base comes from,keep your "nooch",but don't expect the rest of us to finance your fish production
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#228980 - 01/25/04 04:42 PM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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Fry
Registered: 12/27/02
Posts: 38
Loc: Auburn Wash.
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Havnfun, I thought only parts of the Sky/Sno were closed and I can't find anything about the Green or Puy. being closed. Were did you get that info. Thanks
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#228981 - 01/26/04 02:15 AM
Re: Can it get any worse than this ? Nooch!
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The Renegade White Man
Registered: 02/16/00
Posts: 2349
Loc: The Coast or the Keys !!!
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A guy at the sportsmans show today told me about an alumaweld with a 3 rivers sticker on it and 5 or 6 guys in it above Carter creek, he said it looked like a battle ship, too funny. I feel sorry for anyone else up there becuase you know the fish were up in the weeds after that. Peace Superfly
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#228982 - 01/26/04 03:37 AM
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Parr
Registered: 03/03/03
Posts: 50
Loc: Ocean Shores, WA
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I believe that the fault lies with WDFW. Their micromanagement of the states rivers causes the overcrowding.
Three clear examples are Hoodsport, Wind River and the clam tides. I cite these three because you can see the problems with a drive-by.
In Hoodsport they continue to crowd the fishing to fishermen by closing up the buoys, blocking access and further restricting parking. They are making things worse rather than better as the legislature has mandated. Most of us don't fish Hoodsport but there are very few places where novice fishermen can go. Creating fishing opportunities for novices, kids and folks less able to get around, places like the lagoon in Homer, are not that expensive and would lessen the pressure on the fishery.
Wind River is a joke. They put up a few arbitrary buoys and force hundreds of boats into a very dangerous and unnecessary situation. Someday someone will be hurt and will successfully sue the state.
Speaking of sueing the state. During the last clam tide we lost a couple of people to the surf. If the WDFW hadn't forced people to dig in the dark, many of whom are inexperienced, we might not have lost them.
The legislators told WDFW to provide a good experience for our citizens and then made the mistake of letting WDFW decide what a good experience is. They have twisted legislative intent until I, for one, can't recognize it. Until it's easy on them and hard for us.
I think we need a radical overhaul of the WDFW. If I could I would work for an initiative to fire everyone there and have them re-apply so that we could re-establish the reason that we want them in those jobs.
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