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#233829 - 02/19/04 06:15 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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and as far apart as we are on most things you are like my number two favorite poster here
Plunker does kinda grow on you after a while, doesn't he? cool


I disagree with Plunker on this one.........but at least that way I know everything is right in the world. wink
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#233830 - 02/19/04 06:17 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
GutZ Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
Maybe another way to look at WSR is that it's like a contraceptive. You don't always shoot to kill, but you still like to play the game!

Plunker;
You have recommended that some of us seek professional help. Your stun and release concept is truly off the wall. Perhaps you should seek the same. :p wink
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#233831 - 02/19/04 06:17 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Plunker Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/01/00
Posts: 511
Loc: Skagit Valley
Thanks H2o,

I did expect a comment comparing my viewpoint with PETA but my attitude differs from theirs in that I think its ok to kill those cute little critters for food,

If I were a vegetarian and thought everyone should be just like me, what a world, I would certainly ban all killing and everyone would be forced to take a bath once a year. laugh

Oops... had to edit here.

Gutz - Thanks for the opinion.
I admire the views of those who are prone towards looking off into space.
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#233833 - 02/19/04 06:52 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
biglarfishin Offline
Fry

Registered: 01/06/04
Posts: 21
Loc: Elma
Its all fine and dandy that most of us agree that releasing wild steelhead is the right thing to do!!! Why don't all of us get together right now and truck our asses over to the Chehalis
river in Aberdeen and try to get the Indians to agree to the same thing while they are netting there 5 days a week until april 15

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#233834 - 02/19/04 06:53 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
B-RUN STEELY Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3233
Loc: IDAHO
I don't know guys... I still have some guns... there are still dams on the Snake river, hatcherys are not going away anytime soon..

Its just an observation of mine, but people who like to buy into " conspiracy theorys " are more scary than the people they are afraid of. What do pheasants and elk and whatever have to do with releasing wild fish ??? All these are different issues. In case you were un-aware, there are more elk now than in 1900- about 3 times as many.. can't say the same for fish.

Stun and release !!! thats pretty good !!! A real PETA guy would love to put that on film.
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#233835 - 02/19/04 06:59 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
So I see with ducks and such that they have different limits for different kinds and if I remember right after years of being able to kill and eat sandhill cranes they closed that season completely?
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#233836 - 02/19/04 07:01 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Its all fine and dandy that most of us agree that releasing wild steelhead is the right thing to do!!! Why don't all of us get together right now and truck our asses over to the Chehalis
river in Aberdeen and try to get the Indians to agree to the same thing while they are netting there 5 days a week until april 15
Well, option B is to ask them to stop netting wild fish.........even though we won't stop killing them ourselves. That'd probably go over like a turd in a punch bowl.
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#233837 - 02/19/04 07:03 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
And ZEn ,there are some board members (I'm one) from the WSC that post on this board but I don't believe we stuffed the ballot box on this issue. You may well be in the minority on this one. THE FISH NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GIVE THEM>
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#233838 - 02/19/04 07:12 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Zen Leecher aka Bill W Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 972
Loc: Moses Lake
Jerry, I know you are one of the VP's under your alter ego name. I wasn't going to mention names.

Also I would agree adults wouldn't stuff ballot boxes. My take was that the thinking of your crowd was slanted towards what the poll indicated. Maybe I said it the wrong way, but I wasn't implying anything. It was an observation.
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#233840 - 02/19/04 07:24 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Now that would be called a super majority. If a political party was to win an election with a percentage like that, members of that party would certainly feel that they were on the right track
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#233841 - 02/19/04 07:25 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
DUROBOAT15 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/08/02
Posts: 812
Loc: des moines
Jerry your right "The fish need all the help we an give them"
And ALL the help we could give them would be to close the rivers and quite fishing for them.Including CnR harrasment and mortality.Just think what kinda statement that would be to the tribes.Not the statement the new WSR law makes that sportsman are killing less fish.But the statement that we are killing no fish at all.Now THAT would be a statement.
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#233842 - 02/19/04 07:29 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
h2o Offline
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 2449
Loc: Portland
I smell PETA bread again.
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#233843 - 02/19/04 07:46 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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#233844 - 02/19/04 07:51 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Bruce Pearson Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 287
Loc: Auburn, WA USA
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Originally posted by AuntyM:
The results on both boards show an average of 75% are for C&R or WSR.

That's just aswesome! beer
Try 60% Marsha..

On both boards combined, there is a total of 239 votes

99 don't support it
140 do support it

And I would be very surprised if that even came close to the real world. Most of those votes came from this board.

The other board was:

60 votes don't support it
27 votes do support it

I'd say that it shows how devisive this policy really is..

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#233845 - 02/19/04 08:08 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
grandpa2 Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
We do alot of weird and cruel things to animals. I grew up a butcher's son but never aquired the knack for chopping off a chicken's head or slamming a huge wooden mallet between a big cow's eyes or slitting it open end to end. I had no problem shooting ducks as long as someone lese cleaned them but have a problem killing a deer even though I have gone along on many hunting trips. I catch and release alot of fish and have never put that in human terms like some tend to do. The old: How would you like it if I hooked you in the mouth and drug you around for a half an hour then pulled the hook out with pliers and tossed you back in the water.

I read somewhere that man had dominion over the birds in the air and the fish in the sea and some sort of stuff like that. I guess I still believe that.
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#233847 - 02/19/04 08:18 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Aunty: You know lots of guys beleive that there are many things women are not good at. Maybe he assumed that math was one of them. hello
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#233848 - 02/19/04 08:34 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
Bruce Pearson Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 01/19/00
Posts: 287
Loc: Auburn, WA USA
I have no idea what numbers your looking at. The numbers I posted are exact numbers on both boards. rolleyes

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#233850 - 02/19/04 10:01 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
steelheaddude Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 02/13/00
Posts: 180
So what does it mean that the poll is diff on this board than the one on gamefish?

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#233851 - 02/19/04 10:31 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
biglarfishin Offline
Fry

Registered: 01/06/04
Posts: 21
Loc: Elma
your right dan s i totally agree with you. i did not mean to seem so harsh, it is just that i drove by the chehalis a couple of days ago and seen the nets in and it just frustrated the hell out of me. Like i said before in a pevious topic, it seems to me that the sportsman are making better effort at this issue of wild steelhead than the tribes ,but hey i may be wrong . Do you think that the quinault tribe has their nets in 5 days a week until april 15 to try to harvest the major part of the hatchery runs of the tributaries of the chehalis? Yeah thats what i thought

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#233852 - 02/19/04 10:35 PM Re: 74% support wild steelhead moritorium!
DUROBOAT15 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/08/02
Posts: 812
Loc: des moines
Steve,
Yes the polls are differant on the two sites.It looks like the people at GF see this new rule for what it really is.
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