" You all can't get along "... thats obvious... ongoing and pretty sad

Jerry,

I was referring to yhe following line from Smalma's post:
"My understanding that WSC and your allies couched your arguments to the Commission in support of WSR on recovering depressed wild stocks and protection of the few remaining "healthy" stocks - biological arguments if you will."

Let's just agree to disagree upon what that meant.

I don't want to join the class of mudslingers and antagonists led by our dear "relative".

I also wish to not degress into petty bickering or nitpicking over barely significant details which detract from the gist of the conversation.

Have you looked into the "Steelhead Trout Club of Washington" that I linked to in the above brief about some of their history and accomplishments?

They, in my opinion, have probably been the finest and most accomplished fishing group in the state over the many years that recreational fishermen have required representation.

I think that sounds like a fine organization Plunker.

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So, FishDoctor,

Exactly which group is it you like? I can't really tell from your post!



Fish on...

Todd

I think he is into ballet....

Or a famous Bishop named Desmond...

Don,t Know where this post is going but how about we keep it simple?
Without all the bickering? After all, all we want to do is restore the fish runs so our children and grandchildren and great grandchildren can have the same or better opportunitys to fish the lakes and rivers as we have.
I did like B-Run Steelys group, pure and simple(maybe not so simple)
1> Release of wild stocks manditory
2> Limited tribal fishing
3> No nets
4> No sales by the tribes on steelhead, and very limited sale of salmon if the season permits.
I Believe as do the Commercials(who count on it) that the Sports groups will not come together and unite because of the differences between the groups.
If we can agree on these four things or three of them or even one of them, and unite as a group, That we would be a powerful voice in Olympia and they would Listen.
How about United Sports fishermen and Women of Washington.
A lobbiest in Olympia and Mucho cash For the campaign of our future Gov.
I,m sure the commercials have been looking to pay the future governer off already.
With all of the experience, Attorneys, Leaders, and followers on this board Can We do it?
Comments? Ideas?
LETS WORK TOGETHER!
RAMPRAT

Keep in mind that thats not a "wish list"... the things I outlined are the way things are here in Idaho. These issues have been handled for years. CR of all wild stocks is 20 years old over here. The tribes can't use nets and they can not keep any wild fish... they can't sell steelhead period.. true story.

In the end, if you could just understand that CR of all wild stocks is the only tool you will ever have if you plan to take on the tribes and commercials in the future. I wonder how good fishing would be if our fish did not get hammered in the C.R by nets.

That Bolt Character really screwed you guys bigtime... Some of the things that happen over there in Washington are so wrong that its totally amazing that they happen at all. When you read about tribes catching salmon and taking the eggs and throwing the fish away etc over there it almost sounds like a B.S story- It would seem that if a national T.V show like 20/20 did a story on things like that it would get stopped dam quick. As I mentioned before, I don't think the people in this country are aware of this abuse of a natural resource. You guys can't get together on anything so let the rest of the country see what your complaining about.... Think that people would care if you showed the whole nation your tribes using wild steelhead for crab bait ??? Its like a crime going on in your backyard.. and its legal

interesting idea B-run.... except the media wouldn't touch it. Its not PC. I suspect they have been alerted many times. I personally called the Tacoma News Tribune when I was fishing the Puyallup and saw a huge mound of salmon laying on the beach, baking in the hot sun.. Never made the news.

Go national, while the local news might be afraid of these issues the national media would eat it up.

Easy lead in- show some Japanese stuffing their faces with Chum salmon roe... then show the rotting fish.. Throw in some shots of the casinos that the tribal members won't work in, some cheap smoke shops and fire works stands... selling wild steelhead for less than a buck a pound, and throwing away what does not get sold.

Sounds like a horror story ?? Thats because it is. Think of the money end of it all... suppose the sales of C.R salmon are even 1/10th of the cost ??? Doubt it. The whole thing ranks right up there with clubbing baby seals or killing bears for their gall bladders