#323454 - 12/10/05 06:29 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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BUCK NASTY!!
Registered: 01/26/00
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
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Slip makes the most sense, easier to cast and more versitile and efficient... Slight the bobber stop and make your next cast. Keith 
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#323455 - 12/10/05 06:56 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
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Slight the bobber stop and make your next cast. You can just grab your fixed Turbomaster and slide in up or down, too. It isn't welded in place you know. I popped a fish today in about 18-20"" of water . I was hanging about 15" of line. I would have passed on that cast if I had a slider on. Of course, I don't fish floats much. And never on a Spongebob rod. 
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#323456 - 12/10/05 07:08 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
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Fixed bobber!!!!!! Have done the "slip" boober bit in the past. Now 100% fixed bobbers for the rivers that I fish. The 1" or 1 1/2" work very well, if you need weight to cast........jam some small pencil lead in the bottom.
I also paint the upper half----florescent Green(works good in the early morning) or florescent orange(works good if everone else is using the green).....either color doesn't affect fish catching.
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#323457 - 12/10/05 07:37 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Smolt
Registered: 09/10/05
Posts: 81
Loc: mountlake terrace
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I asked the same question at a Dave Vedder seminar and his answer was that for steelhead fishing generally you're fishing shallower and use a fixed float, and for salmon you're generally fishing deeper slower water and use a slip float but its personal preference....
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#323458 - 12/10/05 08:15 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3275
Loc: Port Angeles
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I have found that with the fixed, wrap arounds, if you just wrap it around once, you can easily grab it and slide it up or down... That is with Monofilament, I doubt itwould work that well with spectra...
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#323459 - 12/10/05 09:41 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
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Loc: Everett
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Fixed for me and most people I fish with..... Dinks with a toothpick. Sliding works o.k. for fishing deeper holes, but I usually fish deep holes from the bottom up instead of the top down.
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#323460 - 12/10/05 10:57 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Returning Adult
Registered: 10/13/03
Posts: 338
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I don't understand the question. A sliding float is fixed as soon as it hits the bobber stop. It's really pretty simple...adjust your riggin to the depth of the hole. I catch as many fish on a fixed as I do a slider, and I don't really care which one. I just wake up, grab my rod, and whatever float set-up I happen to have tied on my float rod, I use! I just adjust the float to the match the depth and bam! A sliding float allows you to cast easier from the bank. Really that's the only distinct difference I know of.
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#323461 - 12/12/05 12:57 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Spawner
Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 640
Loc: The Tailout
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Wow! I got a lot of responces with this one. A lot of fishermen are obviously float fishing. Just 5 or 6 years ago, seemed like I was one of the only ones, at least here in Oregon.
The one variable that I haven't seen discussed much and that I'm most curious about is current. As a long-term fixed-float guy, I'm wondering if faster (winter steelhead-type) currents on bigger rivers are a liability with slip floats (will the pull of the current on the line raise the jig off the bottom in a fast run)?
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#323462 - 12/13/05 03:32 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3275
Loc: Port Angeles
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Thats a good question.. I tried getting my buddy to lay down underwater and tell me what my jig was doing in that faster water... No go as of yet!
:rolleyes:
Lemme know when you figure that one out for me! =)
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#323463 - 12/13/05 05:21 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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I prefer fixed floats.
Fishing in the SRC, it would be hard to use a fixed float and cast your leader with a 20 inch rod, though!
Parker, my pre-SRC fish came on a fixed float...and, yes, it will take you a while to live down rigging up *almost* every team members' rods (eight of them, I believe!) with the bobber stop below the float. The fact that most of the team fished with them for a few casts before noticing the problem should also be hard for them to live down easily!
Due to my need to be the master of my own fishing destiny, I'm glad I took the time to rig my SRC rods myself the night before the SRC, before a kind and helpful soul rigged all mine backwards, too!
The reason I prefer a fixed float is that I like to use a very long float rod (11'), and keep a fairly tight line from my rod tip to my float, with slight tension on the float as it goes down the river.
This allows me feel most strikes before the float even wiggles much, unless fishing really flat water.
Keeping that tension on the line that I like, in moving water, will cause the bait to rise up and the float to slide down the leader, making it hard to maintain the depth I am looking for.
With my long rods, so long as I am fishing less than ten feet of water, you will always find a fixed float attached to my line on the river.
Fish on...
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#323464 - 12/13/05 05:23 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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P.S. In the hands of a competent angler, I think it comes down more to personal preference and personal fishing style than it does to any rule of thumb.
Oh, and sliding a fixed dink float up and down the line is just as quick and easy as sliding a bobber stop around, and the dink float stays put where you put it, while bobber stops tend to loosen up and move around as the day progresses.
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#323466 - 12/13/05 05:48 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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JG, I'm going with extremely dense, even while agreeing that he is a sneaky one...
If he was truly being sneaky, he would have probably done it to some team other than his own, and even if he thought it was a good idea to do it to his own team, he probably wouldn't have done his own rods, too!
Personally, I think this is a much more interesting story than Cletus and Lurlene's porch!
Fish on...
Todd
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#323467 - 12/13/05 06:54 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13951
Loc: Mitulaville
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Originally posted by Jerry Garcia: He was either extremely dense or extremely bright. Either one would be a good guess! Originally posted by Todd: Personally, I think this is a much more interesting story than Cletus and Lurlene's porch! I'd say I've done worse, but honestly, I don't think I can. Still cracks me up, though. Two words come to mind that perfectly describe what I did: "Dumb" & "Arse" 
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#323468 - 12/13/05 10:48 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Dang, parker. Stop below the float? That's ok if you remebered to put one above it too, but........... "Hey man........what's my float doing?" "Parrrker!!" 
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#323469 - 12/13/05 11:22 PM
Re: Fixed vs slip floats for steelhead
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Superstar in diapers
Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 316
Loc: B.I.
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I go fixed only. If it is too deep I switch to drift gear.
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