I don't think that there have been any conversations with the tribes whatsoever about this tournament or the permit for it.

Fish on...

Todd

Next year when we do this we'll likely do it during the summer somewhere in SW washington and it's gonna be a blood bath on hatchery fish.

Let's make it a "SolFly Pikeminnow Derby"...can't be any issues about catching and killing as many of those as possible, and besides winning the derby and collecting the big money, we can do it during the Pikeminnow Bounty time on the Columbia, and get the State to kick in a few bucks to the participants, too!

FIsh on...

Todd

NOT.

So WDFW was just "concerned" about how the tribes Would feel, If they talked to them about it?? What was the rationale for not allowing legal activity to take place during a legal activity?

Yip. Apparently the mere implication of having to justifiy C&R mortality "caused by tournament approval" to the tribes after the season is over was enough to, at least in part, persued them not to allow measuring of fish.

I can understand the concern about fish handling, but to think the length of time required to measure and photgraph a fish is going to increase mortality just goes to show how out of touch the department is with our sport.

They stand by the fact our OP runs of fish are healty, healty enough in fact to allow harvest, yet they are concerned about C&R mortality. Contradictory to say the least.

"I just wanted to meet a few people and have some more fun...is that so bad? "

No, my friend, and that is going to happen...no matter what.

Fish on...

Todd

So...KK? Are you a Jet or a Shark?

Fish on...

Todd

Hey can someone tell me where that other thread is so I can read it myself.

Thanks
Fly

I'll PM it to ya...hang on...

Fish on...

Todd

Me too-

And Parker is on his way out ... hop back in that truck!

Well, I'll be fishing tomorrow regardless...damn snow.

Fish on...

Todd

Here was my comment over on GF.com - just wanted to post it here as only a masochist would go through the whole thread.

This thread illustrates every reason why it is very difficult to be optimistic about the future of our fisheries. We (sportsfishers) are so hell bent on being right and tearing down our brothers and sisters who do not agree with us that we present an incredibly splintered front. The Commercials and the Tribes will beat us like a drum forever if we keep this up.

One of the reasons that I supported (and still do) the Wild Steelhead moratorium is that one user group needed to occupy the high ground. My friends that are fishing this tournament have lost a great deal of credibility or can certainly be painted that way. This tournament will be a millstone around the neck of all who want to stop the killing of wild steelhead.

As for the bonkers who now are going crazy about this - your actions in this thread are juvenile. The point is made and I agree that the tournament is a bad idea. But, for you guys to paint yourselves as being concerned about wild steelhead is beyond laughable. Petty, personal sniping is the only thing you are bringing to the table. Except for providing ammo to the commercials and the tribes.

All in all, a very bad idea and our responses will set us back very far in our ability to protect the fish. We are blowing it big time....

And I always had you painted as a reasonable chap. Go figure.

You talk about the retched virtue of "tearing down our brothers and sisters in disagreement and presenting a splintered front," and then you go on to do just that. You're as much a gweeb in a clown suit as the rest of us on this issue.

Since this deal unfolded I go from not giving a fuc% to wanting to kill people. I'm not going to spend another second attempting to articulate what I see as fact and reasonable repose to people with an obvious disdain for common sense.

Sol, I can understand totally your feelings of frustration. When you organize something like this, the work tends to outweigh the reward plus you also put a bullseye on your back.

Take a break Sol..Eddie is an intelligent guy with the best of intentions. I disagree with him all the time but I can't picture Ed in a clown suit.. Sorry your party has gotten so much attention but you and your buddy fly seem to attract alot of attention and much of it is unwlecome it appears.

Do you take mustard or ketsup on your hot dog?

I hope none of this will have any effect on the SECOND ANNUAL SlolFly Derby

What really sucks is what is just really suppose to be a good time enjoying the company of some of the top fishermen in the state drifting some of the greatest rivers in the state has been blown up to be a political debate of what is right and what is wrong, you know I really don't get it but thanx for all the hard work to make it happen Sol and Fly I love yaa man!!!PEACE