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#341386 - 03/22/07 12:18 AM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: Bob]
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Registered: 11/06/05
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Loc: Whidbey Island
I totally agree on sending them a big thank you, and some service.
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#341424 - 03/22/07 08:25 AM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: Bob]
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Does anybody know who the middle man is between the tribe and the restaurant?
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#341475 - 03/22/07 04:07 PM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: Bob]
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Registered: 01/06/07
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Loc: The OP, Hometown: Torrance, CA
Where's the restaurant located?
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#341516 - 03/22/07 07:35 PM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: BadFish]
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Registered: 08/26/02
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I sent a thank you.

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#341551 - 03/22/07 11:28 PM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhea [Re: BadFish]
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Registered: 11/17/04
Posts: 349
 Originally Posted By: BadFish
Where's the restaurant located?
The have more than one but two of them (Daniel's Broiler and Chandler's Crab House) are both on Lake Union. Daniel's is on the south end of Lake Union, Chandlers is on the east side.

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#341760 - 03/23/07 07:20 PM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: bushbear]
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Parr

Registered: 07/23/06
Posts: 50
Loc: The River
Hmm. "Hatchery generated Steelhead" Is that a cool word for farm raised. I really would like to know who the seller was if it was Hoh steelhead. I would be willing to bet its farmed raised they just got a little wordy on the menu discription. I remember a couple years back Salish had Wild Wynooche (sp) steelhead on their menu, later to find out after talking to a cook it was farmed raised. I also don't agree with this type of advertising because its false for one, second Wild Steelhead should never be advertised as a food such as copper river King. Sounds crazy but it could happen over night.

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#341902 - 03/24/07 04:39 PM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: meat pie]
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Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2689
Loc: Yelmish
just playing devil's advocate, but what makes it ok to advertise "wild king salmon" but not "wild steelhead" as food?

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#341931 - 03/24/07 08:36 PM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: Chum Man]
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Chum Man,

That's a perfectly reasonable question. While it's always subject to varying personal interpretations, the relevant factor is whether surplus wild chinook or steelhead exist that may be harvested without jeopardizing the respective populations from which they're harvested. With only 10 or 12 rivers remaining out of formerly 160-some producing harvestable surpluses of wild steelhead, according to WDFW and the respective treaty Indian tribes that co-manage those rivers, other people, with an equally reasonable perspective, feel that when the state is down to so few rivers, and so few steelhead deemed harvestable, then just maybe the more prudent management course of action is to discontinue directed harvests.

Harvestable wild chinook still exist in WA State, being produced in the mid-Columbia (URBs) and coastal WA rivers. Most of the wild chinook found in the marketplace, however, are from Alaska and to a lesser extent, Canada.

There would be little wrong with advertizing wild chinook or steelhead on a menu if the fish come from healthy populations that actually produce a bonafide surplus. Then you have the social issue that has nothing to do with fisheries. Because steelhead were declared a game fish in WA in about 1935, a lot of folks don't take well to the idea of steelhead being commerically harvested and sold. Like I say, that's a social issue and not an ecological one.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#341962 - 03/24/07 10:28 PM Re: Schwartz Bros. Resturants Serving Hoh Steelhead [Re: Salmo g.]
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Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 277
Loc: Everett, WA.
Thank you e-mail sent.

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