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#378479 - 10/02/07 03:19 PM Re: TheReal Story [Re: ]
grizz1 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 463
Unfortunate attempts at bashing someone again.....CCA should be proud or its spokespeople.

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#378484 - 10/02/07 03:51 PM Re: TheReal Story [Re: grizz1]
fish4brains Offline
Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah

Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6216
Loc: zipper
What does CCA have to do with this? Maybe you should tell us why CCA is no good. I will be glad to listen. CCA is just something new to me. A new angle. Nothing more, nothing less.
I'm done with this one, I just get on here for fun. I will continue to call it like I see it though whether it fits some of your agendas or not.
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#378508 - 10/02/07 05:35 PM Re: TheReal Story [Re: fish4brains]
JimB Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/27/02
Posts: 232
Loc: Chehalis
At this point in time CCA has no spokesperson so I am confused as to what you are saying Griz. I am on the State Board for CCA so if you have a complaint feel free to email me or you can say it here.

Jim

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#378525 - 10/02/07 06:41 PM Re: TheReal Story [Re: JimB]
fish4brains Offline
Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah

Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6216
Loc: zipper
This is off topic but now that it came up, he did some CCA bashing in another post with no explanation also. I'm curious to hear the reasons, maybe they're valid but we'll never know unless he comes back. Also accused CCA supporters of "castigating" other groups efforts, which I never saw evidence of either.
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#378556 - 10/02/07 08:49 PM Re: TheReal Story [Re: fish4brains]
steely slammer Offline
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Registered: 02/24/00
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ok what is the CCA???? i keep reading about it on here but dont know what it is...
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#378564 - 10/02/07 10:36 PM Re: TheReal Story [Re: fish4brains]
fishenfool Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 515
Loc: DASHPOINT
We have acreage on the johns and I have fished that for kings 15 plus years other then when it was shut down and I have never seen it so sloooowwwwww. 3 of us fishing from my laguna and one nice silver lost at boat and 3 dogs. thats fishing thru both tides, and I never saw a net out.
And I believe it was 4 years ago that it was open(other then last year which was dismal except for the opener) and it was a good fisheries. Whats up with that, are they netting this stock of kings into extinction, its about time that the fisheries stand up for our rights before they screw us out of another stock.
Willapa sucked this year.
LaPush late season sucked for the opener,
Is it just a bad year?
The south sound area 11 was good for Kings again this year

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#378580 - 10/02/07 11:34 PM Re: TheReal Story [Re: fishenfool]
Ikissmykiss Offline
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Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 1244
Loc: Snohomish County
 Originally Posted By: fishenfool
I have never seen it so sloooowwwwww. 3 of us fishing from my laguna and one nice silver lost at boat and 3 dogs. thats fishing thru both tides, and I never saw a net out.


I believe you fishenfool....Doc had pretty much the same results today as he did yesterday. I just don't get it....this is the first sloooowwwwww Chinook and/or Coho fishery I've heard of this year around here. Why?

Ike

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#381597 - 10/16/07 03:38 PM Re: The Real Grays Harbor Story [Re: Harbor_Hog]
eyeFISH Offline
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12620
Well just as I predicted, the 501 dead chinook allocation for the bay has already been exceeded... and we are only two weeks into the kill season! Thank God the first two days were a total bust or we would be far worse off!

Here's the fNp statistical analysis of the Coastal Creel to date.

Westport: 4 out of 15 days reported... 28 kings retained in the creel. Extrapolate that exploitation rate to 15 days, and you get 105 dead kings.

Johns: 8 out of 15 days reported... 52 kings retained in the creel. Extrapolate to 15 days and you get 98 dead kings.

28th St: 8 out of 15 days reported... 105 kings retained in the creel. Extrapolate to 15 days and you get 196 dead kings.

105 + 98 + 196 = 399 dead kings observed from the three major ports.

Actual catch is bigger since at best the creel only captures conservatively 80% of the catch on any given day (must be much lower at Johns as I fished 6 days and only had my catch counted once). 399 / 0.8 = 499

Estimated harvest stands at 499 kings... and that is being extremely conservative! Some bay kings were off-loaded at Cosi as well, and I didn't even count those.

I hope some of you WDFW lurkers are reading this right now. Region 6 Staff should be ashamed of the 2007 season they put forward. That's 3 years in a row of royally bumbled chinook harvest management in Grays Harbor! Keep it up boys, and we'll harvest this run to extinction just like all the rest!

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#381605 - 10/16/07 03:57 PM Re: The Real Grays Harbor Story [Re: eyeFISH]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Thank our Reg. 6 Harvest Managers and our "sportfishing reps" who continually push for their own little trophy fishery...in spite of the obvious conservation needs.

Fish on...

Todd
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#381653 - 10/16/07 06:32 PM Re: The Real Grays Harbor Story [Re: Todd]
The Moderator Offline
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Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13951
Loc: Mitulaville
If you take in to the accepted norm of C&R mortality, my 1 hen king I released died. \:\(

Better bump that number up to 500.

Sorry. Oh well, it was still fun!

Thanks for a great time on the water, Doc!
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