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#374874 - 09/15/07 12:29 PM Vision Hooks & Tackle?
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
So after watching my neighbors, who cover every square inch of thier Autos with thier stickers, and their bodies with their apparel, I have to ask this question since I assume they have some sort of connection with the Oly-Based company:

Do they post here?

Does anyone here use thier stuff?

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#374879 - 09/15/07 12:43 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: Irie]
fishhead5 Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 09/06/00
Posts: 1083
Loc: Shelton
Irie, they're stuff is great. I'm sure you'll have people tell you the hooks bend ect, I've never lost a fish due to them bending. I get them tied up a thousand at a time, so I've tested them. They will bend when hung up, but at least you get your gear back. If you do a search you wil find posts that have lots of replies, both good and bad. Give them a try.
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#374883 - 09/15/07 01:34 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: fishhead5]
Timber Offline
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Registered: 05/27/00
Posts: 2447
Loc: Stumpy Acres
Vision is great stuff!! I have used it for a number of years and dont have any complaints!!
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#374886 - 09/15/07 02:23 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: Timber]
thefishnfool Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/28/00
Posts: 580
Loc: Mt. Vernon
Not to rain on the parade but a few notes that I have found over the years with thousands of visions used.

One: If you straighten one out on a snag....retie as they are a soft wire and once bent they bend again very easily.

Two: The larger sizes are too heavy of wire with too big of a barb in my opinion. Great in small sizes not so much in larger salmon sizes.

Three: There swivels are great

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#374904 - 09/15/07 04:50 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: thefishnfool]
Chum Man Offline
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Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2689
Loc: Yelmish
they make excellent swivels, but the snaps on them are really flimsy and if you bend one out while drift fishing(e.g., snag up and lose your lead), it's nearly impossible to reuse the snap.

haven't used their hooks in a long time -- i've been using brad's, they're cheaper. couple swipes with a file and they're as sharp as any owner or gami. haven't lost any fish due to them either.

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#374906 - 09/15/07 06:02 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: Chum Man]
Mergantroider Offline
Professional Tveecher

Registered: 04/21/03
Posts: 1656
Loc: Rockport,TX
yeeeahhh...the bend/open up....the chances of it happening on a fish are small but still there...would you rather put your trust in a hook that never or super rarely bends ( gami/owner) or in a hook that i will guarentee will bend ?

That being said...i landed a 26 lbs steelhead on a vision hooked jig...straightened the hook out...i landed the fish about 4 seconds prior to the hook being an arrow.

but as far as faith in your gear....i use them for meat salmon fishing...cheap and if you lose a fish ( i lose lots on those hooks) ehhh no big deal hundreds more to catch.
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#374907 - 09/15/07 06:23 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: Mergantroider]
h2o Offline
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 2449
Loc: Portland
i'll never use 'em again, period.

i'll just never forget the day i spent my last ten bucks on a couple packs of their Siwash hooks and, as I was standing in my spot putting together some bc steels, had every last one of those pieces of junk break just trying to squeeze the eye closed...

...yeah, it was years ago but that is the kind of thing that sticks with you, you know?
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#374924 - 09/15/07 09:51 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: h2o]
donno Offline
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Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 518
Loc: baker prairie
I don't like their siwash hooks either. I use Owners for that.

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#374931 - 09/15/07 10:12 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: donno]
TBJ Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 2199
Loc: Bainbridge Island
I use thier swivels but they are limited in the sizes. I talked with the owner who told me of a #3 wide gap sidedfifting hook he was gonna send me to try. Never saw them. I would never let anyone in my boat use thier hooks. They bend, and they break in my opinion.-TBJ
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#374940 - 09/15/07 11:11 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: ]
The Moderator Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13951
Loc: Mitulaville
I only fish with Vision's. Have since 2000.

Never lost a fish due to either the hook "bending out" or breaking. Ever. Never had a swivel failure. Ever.

They are a FINE wire hook. As such, they are the best on the market for the price, hands down.

Vision has been under a new owner for 3 years now, and as such, the product line is now stable and good.

What happened to H20 wouldn't happen again. (Those craptastic siwash hooks never ever should have been sold. Sorry, dude. You got hosed.)

The owner is top notch, the product line is solid and the company is doing great.

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#374942 - 09/15/07 11:13 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: The Moderator]
TBJ Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 2199
Loc: Bainbridge Island
So are Gami and owner.
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#374946 - 09/15/07 11:28 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: ]
blackmouth Offline
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Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2572
Loc: right place/wrong time
mustad.
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#374948 - 09/15/07 11:30 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: TBJ]
TBird Offline
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Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3275
Loc: Port Angeles
Holy H20 sighting \:\) Hope things are doing good your way Eric..

I've been fishing vision's for a few years now, and honestly, I haven't lost any fish due to hook issues.. HOWEVER, this summer, I have had a handful of the size 7 interlock snaps open up and straighten out resulting in lost fish.. will I continue to use them? Probably.. ;\)
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#374949 - 09/15/07 11:31 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: TBJ]
Erik Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/11/99
Posts: 383
Loc: North of Seattle/ South of For...
They do make a damn good barrel swivel. So good that I use two larger ones (size 8 I think) in place of bead chains for salmon fishing. I just put them together with a split ring. Rarely a twisted leader when fishing cut plug.

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#375210 - 09/17/07 12:46 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: TBird]
The Moderator Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13951
Loc: Mitulaville
 Originally Posted By: TBird
I have had a handful of the size 7 interlock snaps open up and straighten out resulting in lost fish.


How is the even possible? They INTERLOCK.

What species of fish were you fishing for with a #7 swivel? Say "king salmon" and you deserved that. ;\)

Say "red" or "silver" and I'll you to quit snagging those fish in the arse! ;\)

Also, what gear (other than a piece of lead) were you connecting to the interlocking swivel bit itself? (spoons, spinners, plugs are all connected via a barrel swivel or plug snap).

PS. Visions also don't make for good snagging hooks. They bend out too easily in the tails/arse/fins of a fish. All the Skok guys don't use Visions. You gotta get a good VMC, Mustad, or even a Gammy for that. \:D
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#375217 - 09/17/07 01:16 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: The Moderator]
talljeeper Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 326
Loc: Olympia
You too Tbird? I lost a HUGE humpy king two years ago on a vision swivel...never again with that mfg.

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#375220 - 09/17/07 01:28 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: talljeeper]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Never had an issue.
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#375234 - 09/17/07 02:39 PM Re: Vision Hooks & Tackle? [Re: Dogfish]
slabhunter Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3758
Loc: Sheltona Beach
I was given samples of the newer version hooks a couple of seasons ago.
No complaints from me. IMHO Good value for the dollars spent.

Regarding the swivels; never had a problem fishing the Columbia, Chehalis, or even South Sound with them for chinook and coho.

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