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#377848 - 09/28/07 04:46 PM Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners
Todd Offline
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So...a couple of weeks ago at the Chehalis Fish-In I slipped Dr. Francis a couple of my RvrfshrHootchieSpinners...you can see one stuck in the maw of his "coho or Chinook?" thread...

Anyway...I made a bunch more up this morning in anticipation of a weekend of coho fishing, so I thought I'd share with the crowd...here they are...

First, I start out with Sampo swivels...I take off the stock metal rings, and put on split rings...here's all the parts:



In the next pic you can see the spinners sans hooks, and the hooks on the Sampo swivels...



The next pic shows the hootchies on the hooks...I open up the nose of the hootchie just enough to get the head of the Sampo through it, then put on the other split ring...



Put the split ring on the tail of the spinner, and you're good to go...



Today's selection...



The Sampo swivel? Yeah...probably not required, but here's why I use it...

Rvrfshr spinners don't really have rotating shafts...all well-built spinners ought not, and since Joe designed 'em and I built 'em, well, they don't spin \:\) The swivel actually allows the hootchie to flap around and twist around behind the spinner rather nicely.

It also helps with one other thing...I mostly fish with barbless hooks, and with no barb and the damn hootchie covering up part of the hook, I find that the swivel helps keep the hook jammed in the chops of a death-rolling silver better...

For steelhead in the summer I'm a big fan of the "toss it up, drag it down" type of spinner fishing...the exact opposite is employed for coho...

I'll typically toss it straight across, or downstream to about 45 degrees, and then reel it as it swings...but I only reel it just enough to keep the blade barely turning, which is an easy deal with a size 5 Rvrfshr...they spin nice and slowly.

Next steps include the fish hammering it, me setting the hook, and then playing the fish...hopefully resulting in a large two-tone hooknose in the box about five minutes later.

Fish on...

Todd
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#377849 - 09/28/07 04:49 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Those look sweeeet!
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#377851 - 09/28/07 04:54 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Nice tutorial Todd. look like some real fish killerz there.


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#377852 - 09/28/07 04:54 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
ColeyG Offline
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Damn that is purdy. Nice work Todd. I have been meaning to experiment with a hootchie spinner setup this fall as I have seen them outfish regular spinners easily on my last few silver trips. Where can a fellow get his hands on the rvrfshr spinners in the greater Seattle metropolitan area?
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#377853 - 09/28/07 04:56 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: ColeyG]
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#377856 - 09/28/07 04:58 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Walkndadog]
cheapskate Offline
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where did you get the hootchies? I don't see them on his site.

I used Danielson hootchies in the past.


Edited by cheapskate (09/28/07 04:59 PM)

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#377858 - 09/28/07 05:02 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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The hootchies are of my favorite brand..."Any Ol' Hootchie Will Do" brand...those are Yamashita's, the only reason being that that's what I saw first at the shop yesterday.

Fish on...

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#377859 - 09/28/07 05:04 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
Sky-Guy Offline
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Todd,
Did you run out of stickers? The little blue one left center is the kid doing his own thing. Maybe he should get a special sticker?
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#377860 - 09/28/07 05:05 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Sky-Guy]
Todd Offline
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He's got his sticker on the inside of the blade...

Fish on...

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#377861 - 09/28/07 05:08 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
Sky-Guy Offline
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So he gets to ride the short bus?

If you make up some more, make some green sticker, with eyes, green splatterback hoochy skirt. Not that I know chit.
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#377862 - 09/28/07 05:08 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Cool stuff, Todd.
Thanks for sharing your expert knowledge.

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#377864 - 09/28/07 05:20 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: SKYSTEELHEAD]
FishNg1 Offline
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Thanks Todd, I am sure business just got better for Rvrfisher and deservedly so.

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#377865 - 09/28/07 05:26 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: FishNg1]
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tooo much time on your hands bro, go fish ;\)
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#377866 - 09/28/07 05:27 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: OPfisher]
Todd Offline
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Next two days, Justin...next two days...

Fish on...

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#377870 - 09/28/07 06:04 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Thanks for the site link. Had a quick look and found the goods. How do the sizes compare to Blue Fox?
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#377871 - 09/28/07 06:06 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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If those hootchies came with red hot pokers I will take one for each eye... Thanks for the ulcer Todd.

Had god intended rubber to be added to a spinner he would have included it on the first one... Same with outside blade tape !

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#377873 - 09/28/07 06:17 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: What]
Todd Offline
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That's my boy...:)

At least I threw ya bone in there...

"Rvrfshr spinners don't really have rotating shafts...all well-built spinners ought not, and since Joe designed 'em and I built 'em, well, they don't spin \:\) "

If you couldn't tell, Joe's not a big fan of the fact that I modify every single thing he has designed...but this thread is serving another purpose...

Head to head Rvrwhrlr vs. RvrHootchiewhrlr...coming to a river near you, tomorrow as a matter of fact!

\:\)

Fish on...

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#377874 - 09/28/07 06:17 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: What]
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so, joe...you would recommend only using tape on the inside? but i gotta go with todd on the hootchies...magic!


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#377875 - 09/28/07 06:20 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: What]
seastrike Offline
Hey Man....It's cool...

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Nice job Todd. Apparently this Joe guy does not know how to build a product ;\)

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#377876 - 09/28/07 06:25 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: seastrike]
Todd Offline
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Jose...I'll bring a couple of pokers with me tomorrow...bring a lighter so we can get'em all red hot.

Juli just read this...she said "Poor Joe"...feel better now? \:\)

seastruck, Joe makes a very nice product...

Fish on...

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#377880 - 09/28/07 06:33 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Well, I was just about to order 50 or so to modify them like Todd did but since they weren't meant to be modified I guess I'll just keep my money in my pocket. ;\)
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#377891 - 09/28/07 07:23 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: seastrike]
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Nice Todd!

I have yet to catch a Silver on a spinner in the river... maybe it's the depth? do you let it sink to bottom or fish it top water?
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#377900 - 09/28/07 08:36 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Keep 'em down low...and slow...the ones splashing on the surface aren't the biters...

Fish on...

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#377902 - 09/28/07 08:42 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Very nice tutorial, good luck this weekend.-T
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#377904 - 09/28/07 08:46 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: TBJ]
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Hey todd, ever tossed those for steel in the spring?
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#377907 - 09/28/07 08:56 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: summerrun]
Todd Offline
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No...I'm usually throwing PW's or casting spoons...sometimes a big spinner, but without the hootchie.

Fish on...

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#377910 - 09/28/07 09:18 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Those are very effective in the salt water too. I have seen as many fish caught on those from the beach as herring, though I doubt many of those guys are dialed in to riverfisher product as of yet. Mostly see the vibrax/hootchie combos.-T
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#377912 - 09/28/07 09:51 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: seastrike]
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Hahahaha haha ha

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Very Nice!!! thank you, i have made spinners on my own, but you make me want to do them again...hahahah....c
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#377953 - 09/29/07 11:12 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Awsome Todd! Thanks for sharing.

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#378124 - 09/30/07 02:00 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: geljockey]
Todd Offline
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Fishing not so hot yesterday...

Three guys, five silvers to the boat...plus about 352 humpies.

The five silvers were caught...

1 on Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinner
1 on Rvrwhrlr
2 on Rvrwglr
1 on Ltl Cleo

Not much of a sample size, so not much in the way of conclusions to draw from yesterday...except that humpies REALLY love the Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinner if you have a pink hootchie on it...kind of a stupid blind love that causes them to kamikaze all over the damn thing over and over again...good reason to leave pink Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners at home on odd number years.

River was on the rise all morning and was so full of river snot and leaves that it was a hassle just to keep your stuff fishing...really hard.

Fish on...

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#378131 - 09/30/07 02:30 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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I think I might have to bust some out tomorrow with the way the water's shapping up (thank you rain god!)
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#378142 - 09/30/07 05:48 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: OPfisher]
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Todd,

Silver sample size good enough to back-up already known conclusion, Spoon without rubber tendrils outfishes spinner with fake squid hindrance 3 to 1.

Also if you happen to be rowing a boat while Todd is fishing up front... Wear body armor, safety glasses and most importantly a helmet !
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#378153 - 09/30/07 07:12 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: What]
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 Originally Posted By: rvrfshr

Also if you happen to be rowing a boat while Todd is fishing up front... Wear body armor, safety glasses and most importantly a helmet !


Having met him once, EDIT

Great looking spinners, I will be ordering some spoons and spinners soon.

JY


Edited by tunaklr (09/30/07 07:15 PM)
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#378154 - 09/30/07 07:28 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Jason Y]
Todd Offline
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rvrcmplainr did indeed take a double stack wglr to the melon yesterday...he was wearing a rainhood, so I don't know what he's whining about.

Fish on...

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#378157 - 09/30/07 07:40 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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"Silver sample size good enough to back-up already known conclusion, Spoon without rubber tendrils outfishes spinner with fake squid hindrance 3 to 1."

Uh...since I'm the only one who tossed the hootchie spinners, and only used them about half the time (I caught one coho on the hootchie spinner, one on the rvrwglr, and one on the Ltl Cleo), I think we need further testing.

Didja get a bruise where I whapped ya with the double stack? \:\)

Fish on...

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#378161 - 09/30/07 08:00 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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I vividly remember a close encounter with a T-Ripped spinner, after which I was assured I would "never" be backcast hit. Sounds as though my doubts were well founded.

Still, can't say I wouldn't like a video of the incident.

"Hey Joe! Joe! You ever put a hootchie on the back of a spoon???"
"Uh, no."

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#378172 - 09/30/07 08:56 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: UpperFlat]
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Uh... yeah Todd, I think this further testing can be avoided if it could somehow just "dream happen".

UF: What you would really like to see is the video including a size 5 - #2/0'ed rvrnestler nestling into Gakto's cotton hoodie back on an extreme whip-cast a couple of hours later... "I've never hooked/hit anyone before" is still reverberating in my broken eardrum. T.Rip's close encounters were stopped on the count after number $1.219 was reached.

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#378179 - 09/30/07 09:55 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: What]
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 Originally Posted By: rvrfshr
"Look I'm attracted to metallic flash and action but that man killed both in the assembly of his whirler".

I was thinking about adding some prawn to mine as well Joe. Those spinners look damn good Todd....hope you made up a couple extra. ;\)

Ike

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#378187 - 09/30/07 10:24 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Ikissmykiss]
Todd Offline
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I made several extra, but Joe took 'em...to throw in the bushes somewhere when I wasn't looking.

See ya on Wednesday evening, Ike...

Fish on...

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#378203 - 09/30/07 11:50 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
Neal M Offline
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Loc: Bainbridge Island and Sappho, ...
Ha! Cool Thread Todd.
Joe, you forgot the ear muffs in your list of safety supplies \:\)

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#378246 - 10/01/07 09:52 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Todd,

Sweet looking Spinners, I am glad you got into a few Silvers. I found a few myself this weekend on the Sno. Dick Nites and Hootchy jigs were the trick. Saturday is our Derby
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#378271 - 10/01/07 01:01 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: CraigO]
Todd Offline
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The Salmon Shootout...I forgot that was coming...looks like the rain came just in time for it.

Fish on...

Todd
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#378283 - 10/01/07 02:37 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Yeah, its looking good. Hopefully it holds.
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#378285 - 10/01/07 03:09 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: CraigO]
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Loc: Rochester Washington
Was thinking of ordering some spinners and spoons but was undecided on weight for the spoons what are some opinions on weight

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#378289 - 10/01/07 03:36 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: LoomisBender]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Todd, do you ever fish any weight up above those spinners or is the weight of the spinner body already ideal? Also, do you run a chunck of leader above them with a swivel or is the swivel on the spinner enough?

Also, I'm not sure where you were fishing but did you pull any of those silvers out of/near woody debris or was it more "open" water?

Thanks.

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#378296 - 10/01/07 04:35 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Todd Offline
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"Todd, do you ever fish any weight up above those spinners or is the weight of the spinner body already ideal?"

-weight of the spinner is plenty good enough

"Also, do you run a chunck of leader above them with a swivel or is the swivel on the spinner enough?"

-no leader necessary...swivel on the spinner is dandy.

"Also, I'm not sure where you were fishing but did you pull any of those silvers out of/near woody debris or was it more "open" water?"

Both...but I prefer the hootchie spinner in somewhat open water so I can get a nice wide and slow sweep with the lure...snappin' jigs or tossing plugs are what I prefer for the loggy zones.

1BK, for spoon weights, it depends on what you are using them for, and how deep/fast the water is...all of the weights work just fine for what they are suited to...faster/deeper the water, the heavier the lure and/or the slower you have to fish it.

Fish on...

Todd
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#378302 - 10/01/07 05:25 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Thanks for the answers Todd. I'm glad you ran into a few fish.

-Kaiser D.

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#378333 - 10/01/07 07:31 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Cool spinners.Good luck,
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#378342 - 10/01/07 08:26 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
One Way Offline
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very cool, you have time to make spinners? i dont even have time to go buy them right now...

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#378353 - 10/01/07 08:55 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: One Way]
Addicted Offline
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 Originally Posted By: One Way
very cool, you have time to make spinners? i dont even have time to go buy them right now...


Well once you're done with that house, you'll have plenty time, unless you go get yourself another project. You need to get out and fish man.
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#391600 - 11/27/07 04:15 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: seastrike]
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Dude, those Sampos are over a buck per pop!! I like the idea of a spinning single hootchie-mama sickle hook, but.............

I think I'll go with a cheapo barrel swivel. & I'm gonna leave my barbs UP.
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#541473 - 09/28/09 06:24 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: chrome/22]
Todd Offline
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Thought I'd bring this one back to the top, since it's gettin' to be coho time in the rivers again...and people keep asking me how to make them.

Fish on...

Todd
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#541480 - 09/28/09 06:35 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Ikissmykiss]
Lifesavin Offline
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My understanding of the best way to fish the Rvrfshr spinners is to tie a swivel to the main line and snap the spinner in? Presentation would be a little up river, let in sink and slowly start reeling and changing speeds? Is correct? How about choosing size and color for river conditions?

Thanks for the help in advance.
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#541495 - 09/28/09 07:28 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Worked well this weekend for me.....and it's just getting started!! grin

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#541506 - 09/28/09 08:41 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Lifesavin]
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Originally Posted By: Lifesavin
My understanding of the best way to fish the Rvrfshr spinners is to tie a swivel to the main line and snap the spinner in? Presentation would be a little up river, let in sink and slowly start reeling and changing speeds? Is correct? How about choosing size and color for river conditions?

Thanks for the help in advance.

I like an upstream presentation, but downstream works aswell. Let it sink longer than you normally wood with a hootchie spinners, as the hootchies tend to have drag in the water/buoyant. Once you feel your in the fishes zone, flip your wrist/lift your rod tip up to get the blade engaged. Once you feel your rod vibrating and see your rod tip bouncing you know your spinner is working correctly. Reel slowly, just fast enough to keep from getting snagged up, and to keep your blade spinning. If your fishing shallow water, either switch to a #4 spinner, or reel slightly faster.

As far as giving the fish different rhythms with retrieve speed, that isn't a bad idea, and sometimes thats all thats needed to get finicky coho to bite.

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#541507 - 09/28/09 08:52 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Rossiman]
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As far as giving the fish different rhythms with retrieve speed, that isn't a bad idea, and sometimes thats all thats needed to get finicky coho to bite.



Exactly! Even varying the speed on a single retrieve. This strategy paid off with 3 of my strikes this weekend. Almost stopped the retrieve let it flutter and no less than 1/2 sec after resuming the retrieve....Wham!

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#541508 - 09/28/09 08:53 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Lifesavin]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Lifesavin
My understanding of the best way to fish the Rvrfshr spinners is to tie a swivel to the main line and snap the spinner in? Presentation would be a little up river, let in sink and slowly start reeling and changing speeds? Is correct? How about choosing size and color for river conditions?

Thanks for the help in advance.


ls, Rvrfshr spinners come with a pre-installed swivel, so no need for a snap swivel.

The technique you are describing is excellent for summer runs, and works pretty well for winter runs, too...for coho, and other salmon, too, for that matter...I think it works better to either cast it into froggy water and retrieve it, or to toss it across and down slower moving water and let it swing, hopefully so it will be moving quite a bit slower than an upstream/reel down presentation.

Fish on...

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#541534 - 09/28/09 10:22 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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I think yer on to sumthin', Hank!

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#541540 - 09/28/09 10:32 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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I saw you guys were runnin a mixture of herring and hootchie spinners on sunday, what was the results between the two. What out did what.
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#541550 - 09/28/09 10:47 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: stlhdr42]
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hey todd,
i cant wait to see how those hootchie spinners i made up turn aye?
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#541554 - 09/28/09 10:59 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Bantam]
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RVRFSHR should make their own brand of knee pads. They'd be big sellers on this site.







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#541615 - 09/29/09 01:08 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: The Moderator]
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RVRFSHR should make their own brand of knee pads. They'd be big sellers on this site.







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I was thinking the same thing
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#541620 - 09/29/09 01:23 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: stlhdr42]
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr42
I saw you guys were runnin a mixture of herring and hootchie spinners on sunday, what was the results between the two. What out did what.


Both worked great, which boat were you in?
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#541623 - 09/29/09 01:32 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Rossiman]
Lifesavin Offline
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Thanks for the tips on using these spinners. I will try them when I hit the river Wednesday.
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#541624 - 09/29/09 01:37 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
Lifesavin Offline
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Lifesavin
My understanding of the best way to fish the Rvrfshr spinners is to tie a swivel to the main line and snap the spinner in? Presentation would be a little up river, let in sink and slowly start reeling and changing speeds? Is correct? How about choosing size and color for river conditions?

Thanks for the help in advance.


ls, Rvrfshr spinners come with a pre-installed swivel, so no need for a snap swivel.

The technique you are describing is excellent for summer runs, and works pretty well for winter runs, too...for coho, and other salmon, too, for that matter...I think it works better to either cast it into froggy water and retrieve it, or to toss it across and down slower moving water and let it swing, hopefully so it will be moving quite a bit slower than an upstream/reel down presentation.

Fish on...

Todd



Thanks for the input. I will be putting it to use Wednesday When I hit the river. Hopefully I will hook into something nice.
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#541626 - 09/29/09 01:47 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: fish4brains]
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Originally Posted By: fish4brains
Originally Posted By: stlhdr42
I saw you guys were runnin a mixture of herring and hootchie spinners on sunday, what was the results between the two. What out did what.


Both worked great, which boat were you in?


I was in an 18ft alumaweld with a loomis fish on the side, probably too many boats out there to remember me. So you think the spinner and herring had the same amount of action in the bite department? Although I think I could have ran a banjo minnow and caught fish on sunday.


Edited by stlhdr42 (09/29/09 01:47 AM)
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#541670 - 09/29/09 11:43 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: stlhdr42]
Todd Offline
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Seemed that the spinners were a little slow in the mornings, and were the hot ticket in the afternoons...but if you were in the right spot and fishing correctly, there were times that you could have been trolling with a banana peel and probably hooked up.

Fish on...

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#541744 - 09/29/09 05:51 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
So...a couple of weeks ago at the Chehalis Fish-In I slipped Dr. Francis a couple of my RvrfshrHootchieSpinners...you can see one stuck in the maw of his "coho or Chinook?" thread...

Anyway...I made a bunch more up this morning in anticipation of a weekend of coho fishing, so I thought I'd share with the crowd...here they are...

First, I start out with Sampo swivels...I take off the stock metal rings, and put on split rings...here's all the parts:



In the next pic you can see the spinners sans hooks, and the hooks on the Sampo swivels...



The next pic shows the hootchies on the hooks...I open up the nose of the hootchie just enough to get the head of the Sampo through it, then put on the other split ring...



Put the split ring on the tail of the spinner, and you're good to go...



Today's selection...



The Sampo swivel? Yeah...probably not required, but here's why I use it...

Rvrfshr spinners don't really have rotating shafts...all well-built spinners ought not, and since Joe designed 'em and I built 'em, well, they don't spin smile The swivel actually allows the hootchie to flap around and twist around behind the spinner rather nicely.

It also helps with one other thing...I mostly fish with barbless hooks, and with no barb and the damn hootchie covering up part of the hook, I find that the swivel helps keep the hook jammed in the chops of a death-rolling silver better...

For steelhead in the summer I'm a big fan of the "toss it up, drag it down" type of spinner fishing...the exact opposite is employed for coho...

I'll typically toss it straight across, or downstream to about 45 degrees, and then reel it as it swings...but I only reel it just enough to keep the blade barely turning, which is an easy deal with a size 5 Rvrfshr...they spin nice and slowly.

Next steps include the fish hammering it, me setting the hook, and then playing the fish...hopefully resulting in a large two-tone hooknose in the box about five minutes later.

Fish on...

Todd





I see the componets are for sale on the site, I obviously need the Wire tool to build up my own---- CORRECT?????

I have used a few of my buds bench mounted ones and liked them alot better than any set of hand ones I have used, seemed to bend up a much straighter spinner body!!!

I likee the Sickles!!!!!

Thanks FINATIC

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#541750 - 09/29/09 06:09 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: FINATIC]
Castingpearls Offline
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2 pairs of needlenose pliers is all the wire tool you need.

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#541752 - 09/29/09 06:10 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: FINATIC]
Todd Offline
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Finatic...I make my spinners, and the thousands that end up in stores, with a pair of needlenose pliers, and pair of wire cutters, and my fingers...here's a video that someone else on another site made of how to put them together...it's pretty good.

http://steelheadnotebook.net/forum/index.php?topic=547.0;p=11

I find that the spinner twisting tools work OK, but they wear out before they could make anywhere near the amount I need to build, and my fingers and a pair of pliers never wear out...and I can make about one per minute once I get rolling...

Fish on...

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#541765 - 09/29/09 06:51 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
and I can make about one per minute once I get rolling...


funny, "rolling" always slowed me down wink sorry, couldn't resist

PS thanks for bringing up this thread again
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#541930 - 09/30/09 12:53 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Mikespike]
Todd Offline
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On another note...

Since writing up that tutorial, I started using rubber squid, similar to B-2's, rather than hootchies when fishing froggy and/or dirty water, and the success rate went up measurably.

They make the lure move slower, and provide a bigger profile in the water when necessary.



I'm thinking about securing a bulk load of rubber squid like that to make available as a seasonal item...would folks be interested in something like that?

Fish on...

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#541932 - 09/30/09 01:00 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
Castingpearls Offline
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Yes!

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#541935 - 09/30/09 01:01 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Castingpearls]
Castingpearls Offline
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Pink Hootchies are really hard to find right now.

I hate pink years.

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#541951 - 09/30/09 02:33 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Castingpearls]
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I have been tying mine up on sickle hooks with rubber legs and some crinkle flash, much like tying a jig.
Still waiting for numbers of Coho to test them on, any day now.
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#541954 - 09/30/09 02:44 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Castingpearls]
The Moderator Offline
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Originally Posted By: Castingpearls
Pink Hootchies are really hard to find right now.

I hate pink years.


Think green or orange for coho.

If I had to only use two hootchie spinners, I'd use:

a) Pink body with a green hootchie
b) Orange body (or red) with an orange (or red) hootchie.

I know it's not a RVRANYTHING product, but the 4.5 Pentac blades and bodies sure have a put a flaming metric buttload (FMB) of coho on the bank for me.

What I *really* like about the 4.5's over any #5 and most #4's is the feel (wobble) of the blade. It's about the perfect size for most if not all of our rivers in this state.

The two spinners are #1 and #2 in this photo:



It's an older photo, but here's the same idea with a single siwash instead of the treble....



I tend to use the barrel swivel rather than the bead option. Both work, though.
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#541955 - 09/30/09 02:48 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: The Moderator]
Todd Offline
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My usual color combos are silver w/ orange or pink hootchie for colored or big water, and Gold or Copper with blue or green hootchies for clear water...that's about as technical as I get on the colors.

Fish on...

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#541958 - 09/30/09 03:00 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: The Moderator]
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Originally Posted By: parker
I know it's not a RVRANYTHING product, but the 4.5 Pentac blades and bodies sure have a put a flaming metric buttload (FMB) of coho on the bank for me.


rofl rofl

flaming metric buttload

rofl rofl
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#542133 - 10/01/09 12:21 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
Lifesavin Offline
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Registered: 09/22/09
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Finatic...I make my spinners, and the thousands that end up in stores, with a pair of needlenose pliers, and pair of wire cutters, and my fingers...here's a video that someone else on another site made of how to put them together...it's pretty good.

http://steelheadnotebook.net/forum/index.php?topic=547.0;p=11

I find that the spinner twisting tools work OK, but they wear out before they could make anywhere near the amount I need to build, and my fingers and a pair of pliers never wear out...and I can make about one per minute once I get rolling...

Fish on...

Todd


Were can I buy the reflective tape/stickers to try on the spinners? Or the hootchies? So the spinner that I just bought from you I can separate and put the hootchie on and be ready to hopefully slay some Coho?

Thanks,
Andy
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#542218 - 10/01/09 11:36 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Lifesavin]
Todd Offline
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Andy, you can get reflective tape and hootchies at most shops...Sportco in Fife and OE in Seattle have both, as I'm sure many other stores do.

I'm looking into securing some rubber squid for this purpose, in bulk, to make available to our customers on a seasonal basis...if I get that done, I'll let you know here.

Fish on...

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#542285 - 10/01/09 03:29 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Fished with PP member Duane Rouse(Troller) on Tuesday @ the Klickitat, while trolling plugs for Coho, Duane was casting a gold Rvrfshr hoochie spinner and guess what...
grin

Thanks for a great product! beer


Edited by Rapid Robert (10/01/09 03:32 PM)
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#542298 - 10/01/09 04:05 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
chrome demon Offline
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Andy, you can get reflective tape and hootchies at most shops...Sportco in Fife and OE in Seattle have both, as I'm sure many other stores do.

I'm looking into securing some rubber squid for this purpose, in bulk, to make available to our customers on a seasonal basis...if I get that done, I'll let you know here.

Fish on...

Todd


you can also buy the WTP products direct from their website if you want something more obscure. OE typically has the usual pinks, flame, glow in the dark and maybe yellow chart. Three River's selection is about the same. I know that Todd and Joe like them round like the spinner blade, but I typically buy them in the sheet packs and cut them in rectangular sections.

Fisherman's in Portland is another good source for tape.
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#542416 - 10/01/09 09:46 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: chrome demon]
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What size hooks are you using on your spinners?

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#542493 - 10/02/09 12:40 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: shawn k]
Todd Offline
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1/0's on the #4's, 2/0's on the #5's.

Fish on...

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#542989 - 10/03/09 12:41 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
My usual color combos are silver w/ orange or pink hootchie for colored or big water, and Gold or Copper with blue or green hootchies for clear water...that's about as technical as I get on the colors.

Fish on...

Todd


Can you hook me up (haha) with 3 gold,3 copper and 4 silver #5's?
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#542992 - 10/03/09 12:47 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: GutZ]
Todd Offline
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GutZ...if you want to get a few different colors, order a ten pack of any #5 off the website but send an email, too, saying what you'd like...I can make up a combination of colors for you easily enough...

Nice pic, RR...that must have been a nice surprise when the ten pound coho he thought he hooked turned out to be that beast!

Fish on...

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#543004 - 10/03/09 01:19 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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OK. Order #2066. Need an email too?
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#543005 - 10/03/09 01:25 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: GutZ]
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Originally Posted By: GutZ
OK. Order #2066. Need an email too?


Nope...gotcha.

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#786206 - 09/16/12 11:39 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Todd]
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An old post to go a long w the Favorite Coho Spinner thread.
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#786210 - 09/16/12 11:45 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: Dub]
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Whoa? This topic has been covered before? No way smile
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#786226 - 09/17/12 12:21 AM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: ColeyG]
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They work exceptionally well for these....
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#786388 - 09/17/12 08:52 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: ]
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I made some spinners using lead worm sinkers as bodies. I also used a #4 French blade for the spinner. But the ones I made with the hoochies had a lot of trouble spinning. I was pretty disappointed. I might have to narrow down the weight I use or I might have to actually use a steel bearing between the clevis and body. I don't know what the answer is. I'm trying to figure out how to post a picture of my spinner. I have some other options for bodies, but I guess they will have to be made and tried out Thursday.

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#786416 - 09/17/12 10:02 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: TanTastic84]
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Originally Posted By: TanTastic84
I might have to actually use a steel bearing between the clevis and body.


a plastic bead works fine too

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#786765 - 09/18/12 09:34 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: mreyns_tgl]
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[img]http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/uploads/UP20308.jpg[img]

Here is the hoochie spinner that was having trouble actually spinning. Do any of you see any immediate issue with it?

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#786766 - 09/18/12 09:38 PM Re: Rvrfshr Hootchie Spinners [Re: TanTastic84]
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Probably a bad clevis...they get bent easily.

Fish on...

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