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#433579 - 05/09/08 09:16 AM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Chum Man]
Batson Offline
Parr

Registered: 05/21/07
Posts: 71
Loc: Sequim
Some may get a good laugh out of this list but some find it useful as well. Check it out and add to it if you wish. Everyday we add new technique and thats why we love this industry.
ISA1026 heavy dredger, flatfish, moocher, 2-6oz.
ISA1086 heavy dredger, moocher
ISA1266 king moocher, bar plunker
ISA1355 heavy float, moocher
ISA1446 plunker
IST993 glow bug, single egg, slinky drifter, small - spoon, spinner, jig
1ST 1024 #4 (spinner rod meps) (med spoon rod) med./light side drifter slinky
1ST 1025 #5 spinner rod, med. /heavy dredger, med./heavy boon dogger
1ST 1081 light boon dogger, light side drifter
IST1084 medium ½ - ¾ oz side drifter, med. boon dogger
IST1141 light boon dogger, side drifter, light float jig rod
IST1143 med./light float rod (peg float)
IST1201 light float rod, float & fly
IST1263 med./light slide float rod
IST1264 med./heavy slide float rod, med. moocher
1ST 1265 med,/ heavy moocher
IST1382 noodle rod
1ST 1384 med. float rod (slip-on peg)
IST1562 light float rod (peg float)
HS1021F wiggle wart plugger, side drifter
HS1023F mag wart (plug), flatfish, dredger
HS1025F heavy dredger, heavy boon dogger, heavy flatfish
HS9000 hot shot rod up to size 40 or smaller, spoons
BP1024 Kwick fish, deep six,spoon plunker,down riger
IP904 Pluger, spinner chucker, jig

IST1082 Medium light boon doger and side drifter
ISA1027 Xtra Heavy all purpose King rod
ISA1087 Xtra Heavy all purpose King rod
IST1142 Medium light boon doger side drifter and jig and float
XST1141 Light boon doger, side drifter and jig and float
XST1143 Medium boon doger ,side drifter,Jig and float, slip float
XST1025 Medium heavy all purpose
XST1084 Medium all purpose
XST1263 Medium float rod
XST1264 Medium Heavy float rod

All purpose: side drifter,dredger,spoon,spinner,pluger etc….
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Batson Enterprises Inc.
Ph: (877) 875-2381
Fax: (360) 683-3579
karry@batsonenterprises.com
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#433622 - 05/09/08 10:38 AM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Batson]
Castingpearls Offline
Smolt

Registered: 03/26/08
Posts: 78
Loc: Elma, WA
[quote=Batson]
XST1084 Medium all purpose


All purpose: side drifter,dredger,spoon,spinner,pluger etc….


I am going to have the 1084 built for spoons and spinners for silvers and steelhead. I was wondering if this was the right rod for the duty but now I am confident that it is.

Good info here.

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#433626 - 05/09/08 10:43 AM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Batson]
Batson Offline
Parr

Registered: 05/21/07
Posts: 71
Loc: Sequim
This is a list I compiled five years ago for a seminar I did. Feel free to add on a few new words and definitions I could use a good laugh. Like Fly dogging and Hover Fishing ETc.

TERM DEFINITION
BAIT DIVER A diving device that uses the river's current to dive the bait to the bottom. A large crank bait can be used.
BOON DOG Cast directly upstream from a boat. Use the least amount of weight possible, keeping your line above the boat, and tight at all times as the boat drifts downstream.
FLAT FISH A crescent shaped plug that dives up to 20 ft. It is used for larger species of salmon. Worden's makes it.
DEEP SIX A diving device that is trolled to bring the bait to the desired depth.
DOWN RIGGER A lead ball that weighs 10 lbs. or more and is attached to a cable. The fishing line is attached to a clip and the down rigger is lowered to the desired depth.
DREDGER Fish in deep swift river current, using 1-2 oz. lead.
GLOW BUG A single imitation salmon egg made from yarn.
HOT SHOT A small crank bait that will dive up to 8 feet. Lure Jensen makes it.
JIG A lure that is usually tied with marabou feathers. It is available in 1/2 - 3/4 oz. round lead heads. It can be fished with or without a peg float.
KWIKFISH A crescent shaped plug that will dive up to 20 feet. It is used for larger species of salmon. Lure Jensen makes it.
MAG WART This plug dives deep up to 20 feet for stained water or deeper rivers and it is also used as a bait diver.
MOOCHER Drift or slow troll. Use 5-7 foot leaders and 1-6 oz. of lead. Fish with herring or anchovies, cut plug or straight.
NOODLE ROD A rod that has soft action and is light in power. Use very light line. The rods' softness prevents even large fish from being able to break light line.
PEG FLOAT (BOBBER) Used as a strike indicator. The float stays in a fixed position.
PLUGGING It is also known as back trolling. Fish with plugs (crank baits) and let them out behind the boat up to 100 feet. Use the current to bring the lures to the bottom.
PLUNKER Fish from the bank. Use enough weight to sink to the bottom and not drift. Usually you should fish with bait like eggs, shrimp, and spin glows.
SIDE DRIFT Casting is usually done from a boat. Use the least amount of weight possible, drift with your line at 45-degree angle from the side of the boat.
SLINKY Lead balls put into hollow nylon chord. It is used as weight for drifting.
SLIP FLOAT (BOBBER) Used as a strike indicator. The float slides to the float stop.
SPINNER A lure that is usually 2-5 blade size, that weighs up to 3/4 oz. It is reeled in at the necessary speed to make the blades spin.
SPOON A lure fished in all water conditions. It is shaped like a spoon.
TAD PULLEY A crank bait that will dive up to 12 feet.
WIGGLE WART A small crank bait that will dive up to 12 feet.
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Batson Enterprises Inc.
Ph: (877) 875-2381
Fax: (360) 683-3579
karry@batsonenterprises.com
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#434226 - 05/13/08 01:35 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Batson]
akfishinguy Offline
Fry

Registered: 06/09/05
Posts: 30
Loc: Kenai, AK
Originally Posted By: Batson
TAD PULLEY A crank bait that will dive up to 12 feet.


Hi Karry, that's actually a Tad Polly wink

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#434227 - 05/13/08 01:40 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: akfishinguy]
mreyns Offline
Carcass

Registered: 11/06/03
Posts: 2308
Loc: the A
so your saying that a tad polly can dive deeper than a hot shot....i don't think so
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#434230 - 05/13/08 02:45 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Batson]
parker Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 6846
Loc: Margaritaville
Originally Posted By: Batson
This is a list I compiled five years ago for a seminar I did. Feel free to add on a few new words and definitions I could use a good laugh.


MUSTARD - (packet form). It's what you give to a CORNDOG.

CORNDOG - One step above a CRACKER.

CRACKER - 90% of the fishing population.

GOAT RODEO - The attempted act to "Boondogg" on either the Cowlitz or North Fork of the Lewis.

BOOT HUNTER - One that fishes for, and keeps boot salmon.

WHATNOT - That little piece of "extra" secretive bait one puts on their hook to get easy limits of springers.

OVER ACHIEVER - A very aggressive biting fish.

GUT - Cured salmon roe.

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#434235 - 05/13/08 03:01 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: parker]
B-RUN STEELY Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3166
Loc: IDAHO
Lasy - any guy who can't get his wife two jobs

Crap dasher - The guy who always seems to disappear to take a dump when your filling the truck with gas, sticking you with the tab

Bridge critter - That guy who is at any bridge you will ever see. He lives there

Expert - everybody is an expert
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#434258 - 05/13/08 05:21 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: parker]
LoweDown Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 1253
Loc: O P
Originally Posted By: parker
BOOT HUNTER 07- One that fishes for, and keeps boot salmon. AKA Bootsy.



Astute observation.

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#434283 - 05/13/08 06:08 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: LoweDown]
Bigchump Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 04/11/07
Posts: 136
I have both a 1082 and 1084 in the IMX . Love em but have been told by some they are overpriced. My next question to the people who really stand behind these Rainshadow blanks would be how many have you broken? I put my rods through some adverse treatment with no trouble so far. Warranty or not a broken rod is still down time and a pain in the azz. If I had to have a boat loaded with rods wich would be in the hands of some the worst crackers to date then , Rainshadows make an excellent choice. cost verses quanity I guess.


So to answer the question Loomis all the way for me . My .02

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#434646 - 05/15/08 03:08 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Bigchump]
Grayghost Offline
Alevin

Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 14
Loc: king, WA
b. lade, go for the 9' 6". The best overall and most versitile length for all salmon and steelhead techniques of any rod make, my favorite length by far.

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#434670 - 05/15/08 05:10 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Grayghost]
Chum Man Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 1387
9'6 is the best all around length if you only fish the cowlitz. i prefer a shorter rod usually, unless i'm casting light gear long distances. a 9'6 is a pain in the ass at best in tight quarters.

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#434671 - 05/15/08 05:11 PM Re: Rainshadow vs. Loomis [Re: Chum Man]
b. lade Offline
Alevin

Registered: 03/03/08
Posts: 19
I have decided to admit I am an addict and will probablly build all of the rods mentioned above. I just completed an HS9000 and will now begin the XST 1084. The XST 1141 will be next. Thank you all for your advice. B. Lade

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