As has been pointed out repeatedly by me and by KK, as well, all this debate stuff doesn't really matter at all...

EC projections now show Obama with 264 electoral votes...6 shy of a win.

McCain has 174.

There are still seven battleground states in play, and McCain must win every single one of them.

He's trailing in six of them.

Fish on...

Todd

Oh, yeah...the most recent popular vote polls show Obama leading from anywhere from 7 to 9 points, too.

Even if he only wins by 5 points on the popular vote, the electoral votes will translate into quite a landslide, likely winning by A LOT.

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Todd

I'll send an email to John/Sarah, letting them know to call this off.

Cool, CC me and tell Sarah I got a Job for her after the erection.

I don't believe that anyone has it 'in the bag' although evidently Charles Krauthammer is waving the white flag in his column today.

I view the election as volatile, prone to change, and unstable.

That being said, structurally the race certainly favors Obama, and strategically, McCaint's camp has been a series of disasters, in all probablility due to McCain't himself. His arrogant view of almost everything has led him to the point of being his own worst enemy. His attitude toward the press has been poor, and watch the video with the Des Moines Register for some shining examples of a bitter old fogy pissed at the world.

His temper is now getting the best of him, and as I pointed out months ago, at some point he will probably have a meltdown, as a person, he is unable to treat an opponent like an opponent, preferring to display anger and condescension towards them, when simply acting like a sane adult would score him more votes.


It's been his trademark for years, angry old man, and dangerous to America at this point.

PTSD needs more funding.................

It will certainly be an interesting election. Looks like I'll have to buy a few more lowers and parts kits. Maybe a few more magazines to go with the 50 I have now.

It's time for your daily Prayer to THE ONE!!!!Your Messiah demands daily adulation.....on your knees and don't forget to face East....

It's still too close to call. I still think McCain will win. The electoral map looks like a map of the Civil War. I wonder how well Hilliary Clinton would have done. She probably would have won by a landslide. Obama just doesn't seem to be able to seal the deal. The democratic nominee should have been doing better in this economy. I still think alot of the South will stick with McCain. Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Indiana, Missouri, New Hampshire, and Ohio are still tossups but seem to be in play for Obama. Out West you got Colorado, and Nevada up for grabs.

Look back at Todd's predictions so far and.... it starts to look great for McCain. I can't see how he could ever pull it off, but the Democrats did it again by choosing someone who scares a lot of Americans. I think what is missing in many polls, is that, as Corey's sister said, most people end up voting their principals. They would love to vote for Obama, but in the end can not live with what he stands for. Add in the fear of additonal taxes, and more and more people start to swing toward McCain. The problem is, they don't like McCain and he really doesn't represent them real well. Palin does a much better job. That's why she is so important to this election.

I think she's irrelevant now, and will continue to be irrelevant right through November 4th...

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Todd

Well I see a swing on Pollster, pretty much the same swing I see on 538.com, and electoral-vote also.

Definately a swing, but it doesn't seem to be towards McCain't.

You just made that up because it fits your opinion, didn't ya krijackoff ?

Well are all these sites listed below and prediction markets making this up ?

Electoral Vote tallies:

538.com: 333-205
InTrade: 338-200 (314-224 using EV averaging)
EV.com : 338-185 (15 tied)
RCP.com: 353-185

Intrade contracts: Obama: 68% McCain: 32%

538.com Obama win percentage: 84%

RCP National Average: O +5.7

Unfortunately a lot of the Republican supporters exist in the same idealistic, non-reality based plane as the Bush Administration...they just keep on watching Fox and hearing about how everyone is so scared of a Muslim and a Socialist becoming our leaders, and how everyone is flocking to an experienced warhawk and sharp tongued hottie who can see Russia.

Just as in the runup to the Iraq war, and the baffling insistence three years ago that the insurgency was in its "last throes" and that they were just a bunch of "dead enders", when your basic and fundamental assumptions are totally wrong, any opinions or strategies based on them are necessarily off base as well.

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Todd

The Obots declared the democratic nomination for Barack forcing Hillary out, using the MSM to convince the public that Barack won. Polls were the main game plan. (well that & not counting votes).

I am not falling for that trick again! Maybe the MSM media can get Obama in again - selected by default & not counting votes. Yeah right! Don't you Obots know that your tactic of "Obama is the winner" is old news & can't possibly fly in the general election. Pull a new trick from your sleeve that doesn't insults our intelligence.

K.k.,
I didn't say the polls were swinging towards McCain. In fact, it doesn't surprise me at all . I just have a feeling that in the end, it will be a lot closer than the polls say. Its easy to get caught up in the frenzy behind Obama, but in the end, when it comes time to vote, I think a lot of them will calm down and vote differently. Not because they like McCain more than Obama, but because they don't like the liberal philosophy or trust Obama. I would love to be able to vote for Obama. I think he brings an energy and potential I have not seen in my life time. Unfortunately, that energy and potential are packaged with a philosophy that is against much of what I believe. He could make changes that are great for our country, but he has as much or more potential to make changes that I hate. Still not sure how I will vote, but I probably will vote against Obamamania more than for something.

So why not vote for Ron Paul, if you have a 'conservative' set of 'values. (I do use the term 'values' loosley here, in conjunction with the term 'conservative', due in large part to the fact that .................well as you pointed out, fear of anything different seems to be the underlying 'value' that republicans embrace.

C'mon, if you think 'Obamamania' is scary, what exactly is it that scares you ?


The Muslim thing ? The Socialist smear? The fact that we might acutally have a President who strings together a coherent sentence and think for himself ?

The very concept that McCain is somehow intellectually or morally superior to anything beyond Bush is a joke.


On one hand you have a candidate who is clear and articulates his policy boldly, with no reservations, and has an actual plan that he goes public with every day .

On the other hand, you have a bitter oild man who can not even muster the support of his own party, loses his train of thought, backed up with some bimbo who thinks winking at a debate audience is a good way to make herself look credible, wrinkling her nose and acting like a 'valley girl' is a good way for her to look 'qualified'.

What is even more pathetic than that, in regards to Palin, is that people buy into that crap, treating the election, and future policy making decisions, like some sort of beauty contest, and would put such a vapid, vacuous non entity as Palin a step away from the White House, behind a 72 year old man when actuarial tables show he has a 1-6 chance of dying before his term is up.

Now that's scary.

Maverick ?

Neither one I'm afraid.

One's been a reliable sidekick to Bush for 8 years, the other is a 'mimic', and who without a cue card and talking points is lost.

Even with them, during the debate when she was asked questions she didin't have notes for, she simply refused to answer, and went back to the talking points she did have.

Just friggin' awe inspiring.......................


"The real maverick turns out to be Barack Obama, who bucked his party's establishment and whose once-lonely positions have been adopted by nearly everyone including even the Bush administration. Nearly everyone, that is, except John McCain. So what happened to him?"

My feeling is that right now, it's not nearly so close as the media makes it out to be...they don't want to let go of the "neck and neck" story...and I can't think of anything that would change the way the trends are heading now.

A draw on the first Presidential debate, which is the one that McCain should have been best of the three on. Regardless of the hype, all the numbers I keep seeing say the public feels that Biden won the VP debate, and by a rather large margin...something like 50 or 52 to 34 or 36, with the other 15 to 18 percent undecided.

The next two Pres. debates will be much harder for McCain.

I just can't see anything coming up that could lead to a turnaround for McCain/Palin, much less lead to the significant spike that would be required to even compete, much less win. Most national polls show the popular vote running 6-9 points up for Obama, and the electoral map shows that without significant turnarounds in several states that McCain will be mathematically eliminated before we here on the west coast even start reporting precincts...

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Todd

It bears pointing out that for over 2 months, probably over 3 months, the media also declared it was neck and neck between Hillary and Obam, even though is was obvious that there was no way Obama was not going to win, the numbers were just too much in his favor. Yet to sell a newspaper, or fill a column inch, the story went on and on.

Same on the republican side. McCain't was the obvious choice back in December, but yet all sorts of converstaions went on about Huckabee and the Southern vote, Romney and the rust belt, and of course, the story went on and on.

In this case, and as I have stated before I think it's still fairly volatile out there, Mccain is going to have a tough time carrying the day. For me, it's not over, but structurally, and looking at the underlying crosstabs, demographically, Obama certainly has an edge that seems to be growing.

Viewing the Senate and House polls shows that more and more indy voters are swinging Dem.

Next week, McCain't will sink to new lows, forever damaging his honor, his dignity, and hir legacy, as advised to by the former Bush strategists who now run him like the vapid mouthpiece he has become.

It's a shame an essentially decent guy has sold his soul to the lowest form of American political life in order to try and win an election.

He's become a gutter dwelling lowlife, and so far, the polls reflect it.

It's all just a liberal conspiracy...viva la Diebold!

Fish on...

Todd