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#465676 - 11/06/08 01:14 AM Aging Game Meat
Joe Fishin Offline
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I have always aged game meat (deer and elk) by putting it in a cooler for 3-7 days. In a previousl post, someone suggested not hanging it in a cooler. I have heard that this tenderizes the meat. What do you think? for deer, elk, and moose?
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#465751 - 11/06/08 12:28 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Joe Fishin]
jadeball1 Offline
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Moisture control. Dont let the animal be subjected to moisture and it can hang longer. I have always liked to let my animal hang up to a week, depending on temp. As far as tenderizing, I think it definitly helps. Process it yourself, you will be way more happy with the results.
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#465752 - 11/06/08 12:30 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
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I've heard it go both ways....

This year I hung my elk 2 days including time it was quartered in the woods and it turned out pretty tender.

My deer on another hand hung 3 days including 1.5 days at camp 35-55 degrees and the steaks are fairly tough...

Another arguement is if an animal works up it's adrenaline..... My elk ran 80 yards, my buck never got out of his bed. So that theory plays out the opposite to what I have with textures in my meat....

Another friend of mine that shot a buck within 500 yards of where I killed mine, dropped it in it's tracks and hung it for 5 days in a locker, cut it up then let the meat sit in the fridge for 1 day before wrapping it. The texture is like the best fillet mignon you've ever had.. Pisses me off really!!

So next year I'm going to hang it 5 days and see what happens....

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#465762 - 11/06/08 01:18 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: stlhdr1]
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We always hang four days before cutting and packaging. It makes a difference. I heard the longer the better but it all depends on what time of year and where you have to hang it. If it gets over 55 degrees it seems to start to spoil. in the 40s is perfect. More reason to have a basement.
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#465768 - 11/06/08 01:29 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: docspud]
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I had heard something about rubbing vinegar on the meat while hanging. Something about allowing it to hang longer without spoiling and reduces the "game" taste. I don't know if that holds true. Does anyone else do that?

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#465778 - 11/06/08 02:08 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: stam
Sometimes it make me feel better to soak my flaming cork in


Fixed that for ya, you flaming cork soaker!
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#465785 - 11/06/08 02:23 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
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In my limited experience it is all about the quality of the animal at the start. I have cut them up when they are still warm and also let them hang a week and had to cut them up partially frozen. Not alot of diference in the taste or quality of the meat if I started with a good animal. (Wisconsin whitetails).
The biggest difference is doing the entire process myself, from woods to the dinner table, I think that is what brings out the best taste. . . . .
Reminds me, time to pull some more tenderloin out of the freezer for dinner. . ..
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#465787 - 11/06/08 02:27 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Castingpearls]
Sol Offline
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The vinegar thing is a technique used in the field to keep the flies from laying eggs in the meat that hatch into maggots. The vinegar makes the hanging quarters skin over hard and the flies can't lay eggs under the surface.

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#465807 - 11/06/08 03:10 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: FishRanger]
cupo Offline
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Originally Posted By: FishRanger
Not alot of diference in the taste or quality of the meat if I started with a good animal. (Wisconsin whitetails).


Best venison I ever had was a doe from Wisconsin farmland.

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#465824 - 11/06/08 04:10 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: cupo]
snit Offline
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Also, the vinegar will wipe away the little mold spores that develop.

I try to hang for up to 10 days, but alot of times I'm going on multiple hunts, and I have to get the deer processed within a few days of the kill cause I'll be leaving again.

Another thing is I hate the hard dry crust that the meat will develop after several days. I don't like trimming it off, plus I love wild game so much I hate throwing anything away. If the situation allows (location of kill as well as weather) I will hang the animal with the skin on, even when quartering and packing out.
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#465833 - 11/06/08 04:28 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: FishRanger]
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The butcher wants you to bring it to them ASAP .,.. they will hang it if they need to but the sooner it gets there the better

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#465863 - 11/06/08 05:48 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: snit]
Sol Offline
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I have a hard time seeing you with a pack on your back...lol

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#465868 - 11/06/08 05:55 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Sol]
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I hung ducks out in the shed for 2 weeks one time in a cold stretch. They didn't taste or feel any different than if I just let them hang for my normal period of time (starting when I get home, ending when the game is over, or I woke up from a nap), but being that old freaked me out a little (I thought I might get lock jaw, or jungle gut or something).

So, I don't know if it matters for small game at all. Informative right?
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#465893 - 11/06/08 06:39 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Sol]
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Originally Posted By: Sol
I have a hard time seeing you with a pack on your back...lol


smart ass!!!!!! I bout broke in half when I packed my moose out!
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#465904 - 11/06/08 07:06 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: snit]
fishmaster Offline
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I just got back from a deer hunt in Idaho. I shot a 4x4 muley on a Thursday. We flew out of the mountain runway on Monday the 27th. Quartered the hind quarters out and boned out the rest into game bags. Got home on Tuesday. Took the racks out of the refer. in the garage and put the deer in it. Today I just finished grinding the rest of the burger. So to some it up my deer hung per say for almost 2 weeks total. I've always aged my meat for at least a week before butchering.

Once I get my walk in cool built I will be hanging all of my meat minimum 2 weeks!!


Edited by fishmaster (11/06/08 07:07 PM)

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#465954 - 11/06/08 08:19 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: stlhdr1]
j 7 Offline
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
I've heard it go both ways....



+1

I shot a young doe on a hot September day a few years back and butchered it the same day. I let the wrapped meat set in the fridge for a day then froze it. That wheat fed little girl was the best tasting and tender whitetail I have ever had. I believe that each animal probably has a perfect aging time; guessing what that is, is difficult.

The meat toughness issue is combination of aging and how you cook it. Meat that has been aged for X amount time may cook a little different meat aged more or less than X. So, if your acustomed to preparing a recipie the same way every time; you will have a different results with different animals.

Things also to consider are the age of the animal, thickness of the meat, is it boned or not, sex, time of year...........................................................................................
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#465993 - 11/06/08 09:44 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: j 7]
Rocket Red Offline
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J-7 is right. Just do a Google search on: age, boning, sex, tenderizing, and meat. I'm sure you'll get results you can use.
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#465996 - 11/06/08 09:53 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Rocket Red]
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Originally Posted By: Rocket Red
J-7 is right. Just do a Google search on: age, boning, sex, tenderizing, and meat. I'm sure you'll get results you can use.


Dont forget to turn off safe search.
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#466171 - 11/07/08 02:28 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: j 7]
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I have had good results hanging my deer with skin on for 21 days in a 30-40 degree garage. You just have to be sure the temp never rises over 40.
And you don't want it to freeze either. I find that by hanging with skin on, I don't get that hard shell that needs to be trimmed away.

This is why I prefer late hunts in Eastern WA, and I always haul my deer to the relative's in Spokane.

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#466222 - 11/07/08 05:02 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Moe the Sleaze]
Little Fish Offline
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The only reason I hang meat is if I don't have time to butcher immediately. In the past I've hung the meat, but it hasn't been any more or less tender when I skip this step. In fact I usually just end up trimming off and wasting more meat that has dried out on the outside of the animal. I've heard because of the very low fat content of wild game hanging doesn't do much to help tenderize the meat.

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#466223 - 11/07/08 05:03 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Moe the Sleaze]
GreenRiver Offline
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Hang, no hang, skin on, skin off is always the unbelievable concensus. I skin them ASAP, and pay to have them hung in a meat locker. This year they wanted $25 for a deer which made my eyes pop out.

Gutz should come out ASAP. Being a rifle hunter this time period is always very short, but bow hunters on occasion have another dimension in game processing. Leave it, or eat it.


Edited by GreenRiver (11/07/08 05:07 PM)
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#466360 - 11/07/08 11:57 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: GreenRiver]
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Originally Posted By: GreenRiver
bow hunters on occasion have another dimension in game processing. Leave it, or eat it.



Holy Cow !
What is the proper situation to decide to leave it ?
Is there an official method, or ritual to perform ?
What about the horns ?
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#466382 - 11/08/08 01:39 AM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Oregonian]
stlhdr1 Offline
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What do you mean by bowhunters shoot it and leave it?

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#466395 - 11/08/08 02:38 AM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
Irie Offline
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Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: stam
The buck naked buck never left the claim...

I just hung it in the "meat room" in my basement, my house was built a thousand years ago, before there was electricity and has a room for hangin' meat..so that's what I did, busted the buck in half and hung it from sunday through friday..then cut the best steaks and such out of it, pressure canned the rest rather than making burger.

The weather was cold and we were getting frost at night so I would just open the door at night then close things up in the daytime...i 'spect that it hovered around 40 degrees in there, I'm sure that it tenderizes some with hangin', as you're basically just controlling the decomposition of the meat and timing it to the point where it's getting soft...but not too soft.

Ate some steaks last night and can't say that I've had any that were better.

stam



Im no expert but all the old timers I used to know did the same...Even if its just in a well-sealed shed so bugs n crows n schit dont get in. Cold dark dry place.

Pheasant and a few other game birds your supposed to cure outdoors for 2-3 days though.

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#466465 - 11/08/08 02:19 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
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Hey Stam...
Inform a city kid here.
What do you do with canned deer/elk? Is it just for sammiches or can you do other stuff with it?
I bought a pressure cooker last year and think I'd like to use it.
My folks didn't hunt (or fish).
They didn't can anything either. I had a big garden this year and did can some vegies and I've been with friends while canning tuna and some salmon but the canning of red meat has me curious.

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#466495 - 11/08/08 04:54 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: seastrike]
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Hanging wild game for long periods is a waste of time. It don't have the fat like Beef so won't work the same. We just hang it and cut it up ASAP. Sometimes it's over 1 week and other times it is the next day. Beef we allways hang for 21 days. As long as it's cool outside you won't have a problem. Elk have gotta be skinned as soon as possible no matter how cold it is outside or the meat will spoil next to the bone.

I like to get my deer skinned before they cool off to much as is is much easyer to pull off.


Tenderness and flavor will vary from animal to animal with age and diet. Hanging has the least to do with it. Unless you hang it out in the summer. If it gets mold growing on it it's O.K. that is what the vinager is for. just wipe it down and eat it.


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#466533 - 11/08/08 10:57 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Rocket Red]
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This year I shot my deer and only hung it for about a day and half. Cut it and had it in the fridge for another two. My cousin shot his and hung it in camp for almost a week. And then striaght to cutting and freezer. His deer was way more tender than mine. And alot less gamey too.
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#466573 - 11/09/08 11:08 AM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: dcrzfitter]
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Originally Posted By: dcrzfitter
Hanging wild game for long periods is a waste of time. It don't have the fat like Beef so won't work the same. We just hang it and cut it up ASAP. Sometimes it's over 1 week and other times it is the next day. Beef we allways hang for 21 days. As long as it's cool outside you won't have a problem. Elk have gotta be skinned as soon as possible no matter how cold it is outside or the meat will spoil next to the bone.

I like to get my deer skinned before they cool off to much as is is much easyer to pull off.


Tenderness and flavor will vary from animal to animal with age and diet. Hanging has the least to do with it. Unless you hang it out in the summer. If it gets mold growing on it it's O.K. that is what the vinager is for. just wipe it down and eat it.

My wifes family has been in the met cutting business a long time.They say hanging an elk over 24 hours is a wate of time.Its all got to do with the fat.


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#466735 - 11/10/08 10:20 AM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: stam
Originally Posted By: GreenRiver
.... but bow hunters on occasion have another dimension in game processing. Leave it, or eat it.



.....meaning that you may not find the animal for a while?...overnight/next day? Then trying to salvage the meat of an overheated bloated animal...? +more above



Yea that. I've read on various boards where a bow hunter shoots an animal in the evening and then finds it 2,3,4,5,6,7 hours later or even the next morning, and still salvages some of the meat.
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#467276 - 11/12/08 01:55 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
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...if I can get a deer is right. I haven't had the motivation this year. I should probably give it a go. I've gotten a deer for something like 15 years in a row now. I skipped ID this year and just don't have the drive to find new spots this year....though I did try to find that big 3 pt Vedder saw up in the mushroom grounds.
Buddy called me this morning and had a 4 pt in his yard all rutted out. He's got a draw tag that opens tomorrow and includes his yard.... doh
Thanks for the info on the canned meat. I will give it a try the next time I put one on the ground.
And thanks for the zzzzzziiiiiing.

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#467316 - 11/12/08 03:42 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: seastrike]
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Better get ur ass out there tommorrow if you want to get one . .. . . . tic toc tic toc. . . .
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#467638 - 11/13/08 02:45 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: stam
..not sure about that, but...


Sometimes it make me feel better to soak my meat in cider....(insert drumroll...)

bad joke

stam


What brand of cider was used? Could it have been Dicken's? Because I have some extra cider from Halloween. These cold nights lots of women love a Dicken's cider.


Edited by TheHunt (11/13/08 05:53 PM)

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#467644 - 11/13/08 03:16 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Joe Fishin]
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we hung my deer for 8 days. and its the best tasting deer we have had in a long long time. usually we only hang them for 4 or 5 days depending on weather.

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#467803 - 11/14/08 12:27 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: TheHunt]
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Originally Posted By: TheHunt
Originally Posted By: stam
..not sure about that, but...


Sometimes it make me feel better to soak my meat in cider....(insert drumroll...)

bad joke

stam


What brand of cider was used? Could it have been Dicken's? Because I have some extra cider from Halloween. These cold nights lots of women love a Dicken's cider.


Good one........ thumbs

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#468282 - 11/17/08 06:35 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: stlhdr1]
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I shot a small forked horn this weekend and had tenderloins a few short hours after taking him down. I was surprised how tough the meat was. I'm going to let the rest of the meat sit in the fridge for a week and see if there is a noticeable difference in the tenderness.

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#468426 - 11/18/08 12:38 PM Re: Aging Game Meat [Re: Little Fish]
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I have found the tenderloin is not that tender on deer. The strands that run through this piece of meat are much thicker than what makes up the backstrap. These strands remind me of what you would find on beef flank steak. Thick.

Cut thin across the grain, or half inch thick and butterfly and fry.

Fried up some thin rump steaks last night. A little bit tough, but it's all about the flavor.
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