I think Californians are great, as long as they stay Californians.

Plenty of love for all you haters in the Red States. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Wow!! Getting all worked up because some people ride around naked on their bicycles? Get a life is a phrase that comes to mind. I envy people who apparently have enough discretionary time in their lives to get upset about the small stuff.

And what's with criticizing the hippies all the time Salmonella? Sheesh! I grew up in the south end of my county among hillbilly rednecks - Irish Malamphy lived down the road and was the best moonshiner in the county - and I was taught to be judgemental about everyone and everything - different from us. Fortunately I came of age during the 60s and became a hippy. Long hair, sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll; no era has had something better to offer yet. We hippies, latter day dudes now 60 and older have more than average education, higher than average income, satisfying careers, and we tend not to judge others by the length of their hair, their overly rigid lifestyles and protocols for damn near everything, wearing too many or the wrong clothes for every occasion, or even their narrow-mindedness. When we judge, we try to judge behaviors and not the people engaging in them. We figured out long ago that if people want to get naked, it doesn't hurt us, and if we get naked, it doesn't hurt them. Maybe not always easy on the eyes, but hardly qualifies as hurting other people.

We native Washingtonians however, allow ourselves a bit of judgement when it comes to Californians though. The stereotypical Californian who moves to Washington comes here with a small California home equity and then pays cash for a local McMansion, helping drive up real estate prices, then he complains about how low wages are here relative to his former California job, and then has the idiocy to complain about the crummy weather. For these simple reasons, Emmett Watson (reference earlier in this thread) invited all immigrant Californians to move the hell back there, or at least away from here.

Personally, I don't restrict my criticism to immigrants from California. I wish all immigrants would move the hell out of Washington. I thought it was getting too crowded here when the population passed 2.6 million, and that was 40 years ago.

Remember the saying, "don't sweat the small stuff?" Also remember, practically everything that people get uptight about is small stuff. Oh so many really need to get a life. Focus on what matters.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

As a 4th generation Washintonian, I approve Salmo g's message. Yep , I could be considered an old hippy also since I haven't had a haircut in 10 years but I also spent time in southeast Asia, been married to the same lady for 36 years, haven't been without a job since I was 14 and we raised two sons that are stand up guys, so judging someone by what they appear to be rather than what they are is as backward as your whiney posts. So folks that think this such a bad place to live - leave and let the rest of us live in peace. We don't want or need you here.
Yep, things been going to hell since the wimmins got the vote, the buses and the schools became integrated and people get nekkid in parks.
If you are interested in the real problem, take a look in the mirror.

My family's history in WA goes back 5 generations, if you count my great-great grandmother, who took her young son here from Chicago in the 1890's. He went on as a self-taught engineer and patent holding inventor to build the 1st hydro electric plants before WWI, supplying Seattle with it's first electricity.
If you dont like it here and want Washington to become another schithole Red State with fugged public education, polluted dead paved over rivers and lakes, and a taliban government, get your ass to Kansas, with the rest of your ilk. And take your 3.2% beer with you!

Salmo g. .......

As with most all you post, Salmo g., I agree with most all. And what we don't agree on really is of no, or little, import.

Well stated, sir.

Must be an era thing.

Salmo Nailed it. +1

Funny how the radical right always told us to quit bitching and to love ti or leave iut. Well is seems that may just go both ways.

I was taught we are made in God's image. If so how could our bodies be reprehensible?

I agree with Salmo, after all, he is my dad and he tolerated my herbal experimentations when I was a wee nardling. I usually agree with Vedder The Elder but not when he says "how could our bodies be reprehensible?"

C'mon Dave, most people you will see on a nude beach have reprehensible bodies. The ones you would pay to keep their clothes ON always want to take them OFF!

Minog: I too find some bodies reprehensible, but feel guilty for it? WWJD?

Mingo my son, remember, we can't all be super models. If everyone looked like that, then they wouldn't be super anymore. Remember you weren't taught to turn the other cheek, but rather to turn your eyes away if what you see is bothersome.

You're a good kid, Mingo.

Sg

Umm,gee,didn't we all migrate here? Hmmm.....isn't this the UNITED States of America? You are free to express that. I've lives in various places.I am welcome wherever I go. If you were a hobbitt you'd be called Douche Baggins,no doubt.

It ain't what's "ON" the skull that makes a hippie as my late friend Jimmy would attest to.



I do have some hippies in my family.
One female in particular, Oregon native.
She used to look like sasquatch, hairy armpits, greasy hair, hairy legs , the heavy stench of patchulli oil , utopian world beliefs, peace signs on everything she owns, the whole tie die [censored], smokes weed daily, hates guns , hunting & meateaters and mostly republicans.
Having to sit across the table from that beast at family functions for 17 years and be civil gives me the right to bitch.


I LOL at these California stereotypes.


Man that thread I started got heated.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads.../gonew/1#UNREAD

Feelin the love yet?


What a buncha shiat.
You guys seen my pics.
You know my gig.
I guess the stereotype will live on forever.


This state is 770 miles long.
Throughout it's range we have it all.
You name it we got it.
Big rugged country, highest peak in the lower 48 in fact.
Wide open spaces.
Beautiful trout , salmon & steelhead streams.
Filthy polluted stinkwater.
Beautiful wilderness.
Ugly barren wasteland.
Jam packed shoulder to shoulder urban areas that make you wish your doctor's last name was Kevorkian.
It's all right here.

Billionaire businessmen, movie stars, drug dealers, gangsters, yuppies, vegans, rednecks, hippies, axe murderers, child molesters, good ole boys, illegal aliens (by the shitload) and lots of honest hard working folks just trying to get by.

Sure plenty of freaks abound here and yes, I'm prolly the exception to the rule.
(yeah right)


Guess that's why I feel so at home in the rockies.
The country I hunt in Cali kicks my ass a whole lot more than Wyoming does.
I laugh at those flat land midwesterners that lambaste us Cali boys.
These boys huff & puff trying to ascend a baseball mound, sit in a treestand or a heated groundblind waiting for a buck to come to the cornflinger then go on and on about how physically demanding their hunt was.


While in Wyoming last month, I spoke with a game warden.
he said to me,"You know, year in & year out I see you Cali boys come in here and for the most part you guys are among the most successful of the non residents that hunt here."
I took that as a high compliment.
I've threatened to leave several times in my life, I have a great wife, I live in the country, make a good living and have found out how to make lemonade out of lemons.

Actually, in real life I'm pretty tolerant of folks with other beliefs .

Once in a while I just gotta vent.

Party on Wayne.....

Feels a bit like fighting the wrong war if you're hyped up about public nudity in a park. I'm far from a nudist beach expert, but it sure seems tame compared to what 2 seconds of Google searching can turn up.

As for the rest of what I have to say, Salmo said it.

Dont you find it kinda funny that the guy that had the original b*thch that started this topic has yet to respond to all of this.! Nothing like b*tching and complaining and then not being able to add anything to the topic but the original complaint.

He's been busy "hanging out" in the park.

Good thread

Salmo G is a much better writer than Salmonella.

Dont the Sturza's own Sunbirds?

Avid, interesting you brought that up. I was sitting around a fire once on Whidbey Island, having a beer and listening to to some stories. The subject of My being from California came up. I fired back, well popped back, well, asked everyone around the fire to say where they were from originally. I bet if you did the same around your next campfire you might be as surprised as I was.

Thanks dad. Next time you come over, bring a bigger pizza okay?

Nope. The US Court has ruled that our Native Americans are *Native*.

You are thinking of a "Wild American". Most of those all immigrated here from various sources around the world and have heavily influenced the genetic pooling of America.

We've even had some cross-genetic crossings between wild and native Americans.

It's not an exact science, especially with the ESA (Especially Stupid Americans) rules and all.