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#466488 - 11/08/08 04:05 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: slabhunter]
The Moderator Offline
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Good job guys! thumbs
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#466501 - 11/08/08 06:55 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: The Moderator]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13394
Thanks FNP, Slab, and Todd! So sorry I couldn't make it. I was too sick to get out of bed. I hate when I miss one of the few occasions when the Commission actually listens and engages in the issue. I think pointing out that in each of three years there was a plan, and in each of those years the Department consistently ignored the plan, ignored conservation, and scheduled additional gillnetting targeting a population knowing over-fishing would be the result.

Sg

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#466503 - 11/08/08 07:13 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Salmo g.]
big john Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 121
Loc: washington state
Yeah, thanks to you all for your perseverence, and success!

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#466505 - 11/08/08 07:23 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Todd]
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Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Originally Posted By: Todd
If they accept our request to make this a formal agenda item for a future meeting, we'll need lots of folks to come and testify, even if all you do is step up and say "I fish there, and I'd like to see the area better managed"...

Fish on...

Todd


Count me in. Maybe we can have a fish in and a small party after.
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#466506 - 11/08/08 07:30 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Dave Vedder]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27837
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Yeah, Steve...you missed out on this one.

It was one of those "perfect storm" times when the irresponsible fishery had just been completed, the numbers were in, provided directly from WDFW on request from Francis, and we were there to point out the list of poor forecasts and intentional overfishing that had just happened in the weeks before.

Couple that with a Vice Chair from Naselle who is very aware of the fact that the fish in her area are just avoiding the imposition of the ESA, and a report from Staff that revenue from sales tax and sportfishing excise taxes was down due to lower purchases from sportfisherman.

There was no brain surgery or leaps of extraoridinary abstraction going on...it was as cut and dry, by the numbers, as it could be.

You would have enjoyed the reaction from the Commission, to say the least.

If the Commission votes to make this issue an agenda item with public testimony, I'm sure Francis will keep us all informed so that interested parties can get down there and testify!

Fish on...

Todd
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#466509 - 11/08/08 07:39 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 135
Loc: Friday Harbor, WA
Gentlemen, here is to you for a job WELL DONE!


Edited by A-DOG (11/08/08 07:40 PM)

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#466513 - 11/08/08 08:05 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: A-DOG]
Bob Offline

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Registered: 03/05/99
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Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
beer beer beer thumbs
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#466520 - 11/08/08 09:43 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: eyeFISH]
Eric Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3426
right on guys! thumbs

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.....I can't wait for that next meeting here! (rubbing my hands together in anticipation)

Well done. Let's hope they do something.

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#466529 - 11/08/08 10:46 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Eric]
bushbear Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 4680
Loc: Sequim
Thank you, gentlemen, and congratulations on taking a major step forward in fisheries management for both the resource and the sport fishing community.

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#466531 - 11/08/08 10:49 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Eric]
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
Walking the walk and not just talking the talk, Great job guys.......
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#466547 - 11/09/08 12:43 AM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 884
Loc: It's funny to me!
Awesome! I would like to think that the letters that I have written to the Represenative for that area would have had some effect too. The response I received was never very polite. Definitely keep us posted on the next meeting. Godd job boys.
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#466550 - 11/09/08 01:30 AM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Pugnacious]
jason m Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 05/27/07
Posts: 485
Loc: pierce county, WA
Thanks a lot Todd, Francis and Hans! thumbs

You're efforts are appreciated. Keep us in the loop, I would certainly do my best to show up and support the next effort.

Cheers beer

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#466554 - 11/09/08 02:29 AM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: jason m]
N W Panhandler Offline
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Registered: 01/05/07
Posts: 1551
Loc: Bremerton, Wa.
zipThank you for a job well done bow

Chuck G ..........Kitsap
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#466560 - 11/09/08 08:49 AM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: N W Panhandler]
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Registered: 06/01/06
Posts: 1321
Loc: San Rafael, Ca. & Whidbey Isla...
Good job, I appreciate the effort......

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#466582 - 11/09/08 12:14 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: ]
Eric Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3426
We hope it's paying off.

Now it's time to see some results.

Sorry, some of that entrenched WDFW pessimism slipping out.

Very noble effort on these 3 guys part. I really hope this has some good results.

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#466590 - 11/09/08 12:56 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: WN1A]
James T Offline
Fry

Registered: 10/16/08
Posts: 38
Thanks to all three of you for some great work. I hope the Commission actually does something about fish management in Region 6. My experience with the Commission is frustrating, and perhaps this is a turning point in that they will begin to seriously look at the work of WDFW staff with a questioning intent.

Congratulations on the good work for the G. H. area, and for fish conservation. What next?

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#466694 - 11/09/08 11:45 PM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: James T]
wak & stak Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 10/22/07
Posts: 129
Loc: wa,shelton
slabhunter, there might be some smoked salmon on your front porch. good job!

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#466703 - 11/10/08 12:26 AM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: Captain]
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Spawner

Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 736
Loc: Kelso, wa.
Thanks for going out of your way for all of us fishermen, you are blessed by Neptune!

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#466716 - 11/10/08 05:46 AM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: jason m]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
Originally Posted By: jason m
Thanks a lot Todd, Francis and Hans! thumbs

You're efforts are appreciated. Keep us in the loop, I would certainly do my best to show up and support the next effort.

Cheers beer


Hey, Hey!!

Could one or all of you please lay out, more or less, the exact process that you all used for your presentation? As I recall, the Hoh system has suffered the same dillema as GH from time to time. Perhaps Bob can validate that. It seems to me that last season, perhaps the season before, harvest was allowed KNOWING that escapement goals were not possible to meet, even with no fishing. That's disturbing to me.

Again, gr8 job, guys!
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#466736 - 11/10/08 10:31 AM Re: GH Officially on the Commission's Radar Screen [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27837
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Slab, the Hoh will require a vastly different approach because it is a comanagement issue...we completely focused on the non-treaty share on Grays Harbor.

There is stuff in the hopper regarding the Hoh.

Fish on...

Todd
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