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#522957 - 07/27/09 10:57 AM How many wolves does Washington have?
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Hello, I have seen several wolves where I live, which is the Methow Valley, the wolves are killing off our deer as I write this. My question to you is, do you have wolves in your area, and how many have you seen, say in the last 5 years? WDWL claim we are just now starting wolf recovery in Washington, I heartily disagree! How about you folks? murphy1

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#522961 - 07/27/09 11:18 AM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: murphy1]
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None near us on the west side.
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#523022 - 07/27/09 03:09 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: Dogfish]
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#523053 - 07/27/09 03:58 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: Big Stick]
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Closer than most think. We ran into some down by bethal and the nile last year. We cut some track and heard them one night before elk season. We asked the game guys about it and they stated there was no "breeding populations" in the area. We asked how many were there and just got the same line.......No breading populations.
I guess they were just passing through but what a place to lay down some roots. Something tells me they are there to stay. With seattle controlling the state we will see huge tracks of land set aside as recovery zones soon enough and no management of them.
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#523083 - 07/27/09 04:47 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: docspud]
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Sounds like a new cottage industry is about to spring up....

Charge huge $$$$$ to Subaru-driving suburbanites for an Eco Wolf camping trip. Show them a Coyote or 3 and give them the shpeel about Wolves and their tendancy to only hunt for food BS and you'll be rakin' in the dough....
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#523103 - 07/27/09 05:16 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: docspud]
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Very humorous to hear a muse,that someone knows if a Pooch is horny or not.

I'd of been POWERLESS to refrain further "enhancement" and would of had to make a few more casts into that gene pool.(grin)

Could you keep a straight face?
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#523117 - 07/27/09 05:32 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: ]
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An empty belly has pushed many things,many places. Lotsa stuff wasn't in lotsa places,until it had to.

I concur on the relative strength of the link mentioned...even if it were only in passing and somewhat disguised.
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#523132 - 07/27/09 05:46 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: ]
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Lucky for many things,that I'm not King.

Best go chase the brace of Snowy Owls that have been giving me the slip and keep trolling for Polar Bears.
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#523137 - 07/27/09 05:54 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: docspud]
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Originally Posted By: docspud
Closer than most think. We ran into some down by bethal and the nile last year. We cut some track and heard them one night before elk season. We asked the game guys about it and they stated there was no "breeding populations" in the area. We asked how many were there and just got the same line.......No breading populations.
I guess they were just passing through but what a place to lay down some roots. Something tells me they are there to stay. With seattle controlling the state we will see huge tracks of land set aside as recovery zones soon enough and no management of them.


We saw a radio collared wolf on the opposite side of 410 about 5 years ago. Up near Bald Mountain.

It slowly trotted across the road in front of us about 30 yds ahead of the truck. We watched it for probably 10-15 seconds.

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#523260 - 07/27/09 11:12 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: SundayMoney]
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I know a guy that got 3 out of 14 with his F-250,in a highspeed sluice pass upon a gravel road.

Would like to have seen it.
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#523330 - 07/28/09 02:00 AM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: Big Stick]
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I saw one running across the road on the way home from elk hunting between Adams and St.Helens. That was three years ago. They are here for sure and have been for a while. I think people underestimate the distance and terrain they can travel in a short time.
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#523346 - 07/28/09 06:00 AM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: Pugnacious]
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I haven't seen or heard of one in the Rebuplic area. Neither have two of the local ranchers. Coyote's are the problem there.

I saw a Grizzly in the Lk. Wenatchee area about ten years ago. I called it into the local ranger station and they got back to me about a week later. It was a confirmed Sow that had some road kill a dozen yards or so off the road. I was backpacking at the time so I asked her what I should consider Grizzly country and was told, "north of I-90."

A few years back driving thru Yellowstone we stopped to watch some Coyote's eating an Elk. Dumb ass folks standing there with HUGE camera's oh'ing and ah'ing over the beutiful wolves. I couldn't take it and had to chew them all out, "there are Coyote's in every state people you know what they look like pull your fricking heads out and get a clue!!!" Idiots!!!
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#523347 - 07/28/09 06:03 AM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: BroodBuster]
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I'd be surprised if there are more then twenty or so wolves in Wa. Of course there will now be apx. 120,000 deer and elk hunters who blame there lack of success on them.
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#523364 - 07/28/09 10:27 AM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: BroodBuster]
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
I'd be surprised if there are more then twenty or so wolves in Wa. Of course there will now be apx. 120,000 deer and elk hunters who blame there lack of success on them.


There is well over twenty wolves here in the Methow VAlley, I first started seeing the big wolves here 4 years ago, since then I have seen 9 wolves. People see them all the time now

Check dates on each article, as you go down the paper trail you might see things that don't quite add up.

Washington's Wolves Are Back
Posted by Eric de Place
07/19/2008 08:00 AM

Wolf-less no longer as Washington's wildlife returns.
A state biologist said Monday that he believes one or more packs of gray wolves are living in the Methow Valley...

Packers have made numerous reports of wolves in the high country in the past couple of years, and there have been increasing reports by residents in lower elevations, he said.

Fitkin said there have been reliable wolf sightings in the Methow dating to the early 1990s, but only sporadic, unconfirmed reports of wolf packs.

"What's changed recently is that we've had repeated observations of multiple animals in the greater Twisp River/Chelan Sawtooth and Libby Creek areas," he said, adding, "My suspicion is, based on the sighting history, its development is very similar to how recolonization in the Rockies occurred. This is looking like we very well may have some wolves on the landscape."--------- (via"White shwans wolf delivery trucks")

http://daily.sightline.org/daily_score/archive/2008/07/19/washingtons-wolves-are-back

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Conservation groups want U.S. to restore gray wolves in state
By Matthew Daly

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Two conservation groups are calling on the federal government to restore gray wolves to Washington state, saying it's time to "hear the call of the wild again" in Western Washington forests.

Defenders of Wildlife and the Northwest Ecosystem Alliance said yesterday they have sent a petition to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, requesting that the agency restore and protect gray wolves under the Endangered Species Act.

"Gray wolves have an important role to play in the ecological health and character of the Pacific Northwest, and the federal government should start getting serious about restoring the species here," said Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife. "It's time to hear the call of the wild again in these beautiful forests."

The petition urges the service to establish a category known as a distinct population segment for gray wolves in Washington state.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20021101&slug=graywolves01m

Wednesday, February 5, 1992 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

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Endangered Gray Wolf Trapped Near Mt. Baker
By Eric Pryne

For the first time in anyone's memory, wildlife biologists have captured an endangered gray wolf in Washington.

State Wildlife Department biologists said they trapped the animal, a healthy 56-pound female, near Mount Baker last Friday. The wolf was fitted with a radio collar and released the next day on national forest land a few miles away.

The capture is an exciting development, said John Pierce, manager of the department's non-game program. "If she's part of a pack, we should know it pretty soon," he said.

The gray wolf, listed as endangered in every state but Minnesota and Alaska, disappeared from Washington in the early 1900s. But reports of wolf sightings in the wild North Cascades have increased in recent years. In 1990 biologists discovered two dens - the first time wolves had been sighted in the state since 1975.

Pierce said the animals probably are migrating south from Canada, where wolves still are hunted.

"It appears we're in the early stages of re-colonization of the former range in Washington," he said. There's evidence the animals are breeding as far south as the Glacier Peak Wilderness Area just north of Stevens Pass, Pierce added.

According to a Wildlife Department statement, the captured wolf, nicknamed "Nooksack," had been seen several times in recent weeks near a winter-cabin community outside Glacier, Whatcom County. After trying for 10 days, biologists Jon Almack and Scott Fitkin succeeded in luring the animal into a fenced swimming-pool area, using a fish carcass as bait.

Once she was inside, the gate was closed. The wolf was tranquilized, and a local veterinarian took X-rays of her skull to verify her species.

Pierce said Almack and Fitkin are participating in a long-range study of the gray wolf's relationship with its environment in Washington, including diet, movement and range.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920205&slug=1473981




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Wolves Coming Back To Cascades
By Patty Wren

Wenatchee World

TWISP, Okanogan County - We may not be dancing with wolves, but they're here, their numbers are growing and it is possible to coexist with them in relative peace.

In the Okanogan, one or more wolves have been spotted in five separate areas since 1989.

The plan is to let the wolves - moving into old haunts south of Canada after hunting stopped there in the 1970s - reproduce themselves, said Jon Almak, a state Department of Wildlife biologist.

Biologists are trying to write a wolf-recovery plan for Washington.

Originally planned as part of a recovery program for the northern Rockies, where wolves were brought in, the effort could become unique to Washington because of the apparently burgeoning population.

For example, 100 sightings were reported in 1981, and last year there were 200, ranging as far south as Mount St. Helens, Almak said.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19921206&slug=1528536

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Gray Wolves' Return Subject Of Monday Meeting
Times Staff

State wildlife agents already have identified six packs of wolves in Washington's Cascades, and more are expected to migrate from Canada to the state's protected forests.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920417&slug=1486887

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#523383 - 07/28/09 11:27 AM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: BroodBuster]
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster


A few years back driving thru Yellowstone we stopped to watch some Coyote's eating an Elk. Dumb ass folks standing there with HUGE camera's oh'ing and ah'ing over the beutiful wolves. I couldn't take it and had to chew them all out, "there are Coyote's in every state people you know what they look like pull your fricking heads out and get a clue!!!" Idiots!!!


I saw the same thing happen in Yellowstone earlier this month. We came around the corner to a huge traffic jam. People we're all bailing out of their cars. I rolled down the window and heard a bunch of people blabbering about the "wolf". I got the kids out to see said wolf and wasn't real surprised to see a Coyote hunting in the grass about 25yds off the road. I told my wife to load the kids back in the truck and one guy standing there wanted to know why I didn't want my kids to see the "wolf".

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#523423 - 07/28/09 12:47 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: BroodBuster]
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
I haven't seen or heard of one in the Rebuplic area. Neither have two of the local ranchers. Coyote's are the problem there.

I saw a Grizzly in the Lk. Wenatchee area about ten years ago. I called it into the local ranger station and they got back to me about a week later. It was a confirmed Sow that had some road kill a dozen yards or so off the road. I was backpacking at the time so I asked her what I should consider Grizzly country and was told, "north of I-90."

A few years back driving thru Yellowstone we stopped to watch some Coyote's eating an Elk. Dumb ass folks standing there with HUGE camera's oh'ing and ah'ing over the beutiful wolves. I couldn't take it and had to chew them all out, "there are Coyote's in every state people you know what they look like pull your fricking heads out and get a clue!!!" Idiots!!!

I live right next door to Cougar mtn park..I see on average 2-3 Coyote's a week hiking the trails with my dog, I'm shocked when I talk to other hikers/neighbors about seeing them in the area..they look at me like I'm nuts, then to see the looks on their faces when I tell them about the Bears,Bobcats,cougars etc.......My point is..some people just don't pay attention to their surroundings.
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#523445 - 07/28/09 01:25 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Common sense is no longer common.

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#523457 - 07/28/09 01:44 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: BroodBuster]
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
Of course there will now be apx. 120,000 deer and elk hunters who blame there lack of success on them.


I get my deer every year like clockwork, 19 years running. I'm not complaining a bit.
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#523643 - 07/28/09 09:42 PM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: ]
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where did that happen

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#523710 - 07/29/09 12:24 AM Re: How many wolves does Washington have? [Re: ]
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If his crummy would do 190...he'd of been doing it.

That would make a killer mount,front clip and all.
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